Larry Holmes vs. Rocky Marciano

Not sure I agree with that, The right hand was landed more and more in the later rounds, he did hurt Walcott a bit with the right in the ten round with the right. You may say Walcott was blind, but whats often forgoting is Rocky was blinded for about 5 rounds. Rocky was also cut on the scap with blood pouring in his eyes also. It was relly a drag out beat down affair. Walcott had shown great slipping abilty in that fight. Also againts Charles.

 

There are trainers who produce a lot of champions and trainers who are good motivators in any era.

A real maestro's are the ones who can take a limited talent and polish them into a world beater.

 

good point but that doesnt mean charlie goldman exceeds stewards or duvas status.i guess you apply the same advancements to goldman and then see what happens after all this a complete fictional fight neway.

 

It's perfectly feasible that Walcott might have suddenly wilted in the final three rounds. Jersey Joe admitted was going for a knockout, not a decision win, possibly a tacit indication that he had doubts about being able to go 15. He had been famously kayoed prior to that, and I'd imagine that Rocky was buoyed by that realization as the match dragged on.

 

Well in round 13, Walcott was clearly trying to pull a DLH vs Tito. He was keeping space between him and Marciano, not hardly thowing punchings. First time Walcott did something like that for 12 rounds. Well Marciano back Walcott on the ropes, and Marciano feited a left, Walcott with on to try to counter the left with a right, and Marciano switch and thown in that right hand for the knockout. Walcott made a misjudgement leaded to the knockout. Marciano fool him with that left feit.

 

Angelo Dunde seems to think that Charlie Goldman is the greatest trainer of all time. He took Rocky Marciano, who was a very late starter in boxing, and had next to no natural talent, and turned him into an ATG fighter who has the highest KO percentage out of any heavyweight champion.

 

Whether or not he dose there were a lot more boxing gyms in the 50s and a lot more quality trainers.

The main reason why you could not have another Mike Tyson today is because there are no Cus Damato's to teach him. It takes a lot more excelence in a trainer to polish a fighter like Marciano or even Tyson than it dose to polish a fighter like Klitschko.

 

Okay,

Here's a question for you, and it might even be something worth starting a different thread for, along with perhaps getting some insite from other authors like Cross Trainer as well.

What qualities are trainers today lacking in, and what skills and fundamentals both basic and complex, are they not instilling in their fighters?

 

Well that's a surprise. Dundee of course worked with Goldman and learnt much of the ropes off him. Nothing like a bit of sneaky self praise.

Obviously the man could train tho.

 

Vitali Klitschko.

 

Damn your right. BUT Marciano was tons better.

 

:spliff

 

VK was no real heavyweight champ though. He just had a alpha scrap. Forget that Ring Mag BS also.

 

Goldman was brilliant,one of the best ever,rates up there with Freddie Brown,Ray Arcel,Al Silvani,Chappie Blackburn,George Gainford,Angelo Dundee,he took lemons and turned them into Lemonade, he turned Rocky's weaknesses into strengths

 

You're on drugs too. :cannabis