Last Night Once Again Proves My Theory About Euro Fighters!

I hope he looks up that America's major logistical aid to the Soviet Union during lend lease, which was America's biggest contribution to their cause, didn't arrive unti 1944. Not saying that is a little late, but I am pretty sure the war was decided by then.

Never mind that while America did get 2,000 engines and 11,000 rail cars to the USSR in 44 and 45, the Soviets already had 25,000 engines and 600,000 rail cars.

 

of course they could and would have done, it would have just taken longer.

 

You don't wanna rile up those American boxers because you never know when they're going to hire a bunch of heavies, supply them with weapons and pay them to beat you up?

 

I dont regard Israeli soldiers as modern day spartans or anything like that.
If anything they are like a highly touted prospect with an influential promoter (america) who beat up on tomato cans (arab countries), not to forget there history of being invaded and enslaved....

 

Keep in mind that the Arab countries were being supplied and trained by, at various times, the British, French and Soviets. In fact during the War of Attrition between Israel and Egypt there were direct combat actions between Israeli and Soviet pilots, of which Israel came out on top. It isn't quite that cut and dry.

During the '48 war, for example, the Israeli's lacked much in the way of armor or an airforce, and the Jordanian Arab Legion was directly commanded by British officers.

The only thing you really have to go on when looking at modern armies is comparable conflicts. So for example you'd compare say the Second Battle of Fallujah to the Gaza War. Similarly sized cities, similar enemy, though Hamas is far more capable than the Iraqi insurgents, and similar number of soldiers and other assets used. In the Second Battle of Fallujah we lost 51 soldiers, with 560 wounded, while killing approximately 1,350 militants and roughly 800 civilians, keeping in mind that roughly 90% of the pre-battle population of 350,000 fled the city.

In Gaza Israel lost 10 soldiers, of which 4 were in friendly fire incidents. Hamas lost anywhere between 500-700 militants, and roughly 600-700 civilians were killed. This is keeping in mind that of the 500,000 people in Gaza City, none fled, so the area of operations was much more populated.

What the numbers tell us is that for every one American soldier killed in Fallujah, 26.5 Iraqi militants were killed. For every one Israeli soldier killed, roughly 50-70 militants were killed.

Once again, if you want to use similar conflicts we could compare Russia's actions in the South Ossetia War to Israel's in the 2006 Lebanon war.

Russia lost 67 soldiers, to 206 for Georgia. This does not include the 151 South Ossetian and Abkhazian soldiers killed fighting for Russia.

Israel lost 121 soldiers, while Hezbollah and its allies lost roughly 700-1,000 soldiers, with 900 being the most accepted number.

That means for every one Russian soldier killed 3.07 Georgian soldiers were killed, and for every one Israeli soldier killed, 7.4 Hezbollah or allied forces soldier was killed.

 

I wonder is it something in the water in america.....?

 

top tier american fighters? If one is a top tier fighter they are top tier no matter where they are from. you said at the heavier weights there are no top tier american fighters . What does that tell you?

 

Israel has much better technology, better trained troops, and tactics than hezbollah, which is a joke quite frankly

Georgia actually has an army, it might not be great, but its technology and tactics were not far behind russias.....

Russia = Top 10 guy fighting (georgia) a top 50 guy
Israel = Top 10 guy fighting (hezbollah) a taxi driver making his debut

 

Actually that isn't entirely true. The Georgian military, armour aside, is no better trained, equipped or organized than Hezbollah. In fact, based on actual combat abilities, Hezbollah would probably defeat the Georgian armed forces. Keep in mind Georgia lacked the hi-tech AT-14 anti-tank missiles that Hezbollah possess, and they lack Hezbollah's network of forts, bunkers, and ambush traps. Also it is widely acknowledged that the Georgian military was incredibly uncoordinated, in the South Ossetia War, and that even though they lacked an airforce capable of air-to-air combat the Russian airforce was unable to establish air supriority until the final days of the conflict.

Hezbollah may not be a traditional military, but by all accounts they are one of the most potent smaller fighting forces in the world, with access to large caliber rockets and artillery, hi-tech anti-tank weapons, and anti-ship missiles.

 

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Conteh, a great fighter and superb after-dinner speaker!!

 

I think that is better reserved for the Russian forces in Chechnya or Sri Lanka's military. I mean if Israel employed the same tactics in Gaza as Russia did in Grozny in 2000 I am sure instead of 600-700 civilians killed you'd be looking at closer to 60-70,000.

 

It did, he was and you are right, it did happen 24 years ago, but to be honest Reg, that was not my point. My point was it has happened, it has happened many times before, it will happen again and it will happen again many times after that!

 

You seem obsessed with trying to convince people that Donaire is not American. THE GUY IS FROM THE BAY AREA! Get over it! Read it and weep *****!

 

Yeah "demolished"

Hurt and made to look stupid!!!

 

HE might be ethnically phillipino, but he is CULTURALLY american beyond the shadow of a doubt