Last night was great for boxing

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Jack, Nov 14, 2010.


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  1. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know there's been a lot of anger aimed at Harrison and a short while ago, people were as angry that Margarito was getting another title shot, calling it undeserved. While that may be the case and whilst Harrison does deserve the animosity aimed at him, these two events have to be put into perspective.

    People have the audacity to moan about boxing not being a mainstream sport, yet when two fights come along which capture the publics attention, they want 'better' fights. Surely the best fights that can possibly be made, are the ones which make boxing a bigger, more popular and better sport? Even if you didn't like the idea of Haye/Harrison or Pacquiao/Margarito, not only is a Klitschko or Mayweather fight even bigger today than it was yesterday, these huge events have a knock on effect for boxing as a whole. Martinez/Williams will get more viewers because boxing is so popular right now, for example, and more people will tune in to see George Groves, a rising talent, fight in the future.

    I'm not saying people don't have a right to dislike a fight. Of course they do, but if we are boxing fans, then we should support fights which are good for boxing. Regardless of what a mismatch Haye/Harrison was, it got boxing onto the main news and on the front and back pages. 60,000 turned up to see Pacquiao/Margarito and around a million will have bought it on PPV. These events are undoubtedly good for the sport.
     
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  2. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Yeah, as events these fights captured mainstream attention. And while Harrison's performance was predictably pathetic, he performed his ultimate role in the fight well, getting knocked silly in the 3rd round. I am sure a lot of boxing fans were cheering to see that. I know I was.

    And the Margarito fight gave fans a chance to see a great fighter doing what great fighters do to lesser opponents - dominating them. And this against a much, much larger man at that.
     
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  3. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly. Everyone knows Harrison wasn't a credible opponent but Tyson wasn't when he fought Lewis, Ali wasn't when he fought Holmes, Louis wasn't when he fought Marciano, Jeffries wasn't when he fought Johnson - Yet these four fights are extremely notable in the history of the heavyweight division. Anything which captures the public attention to this level, is good for the sport.

    It would be great to live in a world where fights like Martinez/Williams get mainstream attention, but we don't. If Margarito/Pacquiao creates attention for boxing and more people get to see great fights like Martinez/Williams, then it's a good thing for the sport.

    Boxing needs marquee events and both these cards were that. Neither Margarito or Harrison were perfect opponents but they brought a massive amount of attention to the sport we all love, so I can't be too against them.
     
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  4. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I just had another look at the Pacquiao/Margarito fight. It was great seeing so many fans there, giving such an incredible atmosphere. There was probably a combined 70-80,000 fans watching live boxing and probably 2 million watching at home. Everything about the Dallas card seemed really important though, even the performance by Nelly. Great entertainment.
     
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  5. whoupicking?

    whoupicking? Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Where u get those numbers from? Out your arse?
     
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  6. SOUTHERMOST

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  7. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There was 20,000+ at the Haye/Harrison fight and you'd imagine another 50,000 from the Pacquiao/Margarito bout. Haye/Harrison should do around a million PPV buys, as will Pacquiao/Margarito, unless it's been completely overpriced.

    Guesswork, yeah, but intelligent guesses.
     
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  8. ed7890

    ed7890 Col. Hunter Gathers Full Member

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    You're a tool, last night was shite for boxing. I was watching the "fight" with a bunch of casual fans, and I can tell you they won't have increased their interest in boxing one bit.
     
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  9. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Haye vs Harrison was not good for boxing. You might say that cause you from the uk. But that fight was clearly a huge mismatch and it wasn't shown anywherelse unless it's in england. And btw Jack, Pacquiao vs Margarito did only 41,000. That's 10,000 low from Pacquiao vs Clottey. <<I think that tells me that some like me knew Pacquiao vs Margarito was indeed a mismatch.
     
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  10. madballster

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    Haye vs Harrison was all about talking the general public into believing this was some sort of credible matchup, a true "pick em fight". The British public willingly lapped it up, they bought into the Bruno - Lewis references and they were happy to pay 14.95 quid PPV.

    And then they see two rounds of nothing and then the one guy attacks and the other takes a dive.

    Now, please explain to me: How is such a blatant rip off good for boxing???

    Look what paying British boxing fans are thinking: "Do you feel ripped off by Haye - Harrison"? Yes 78%, No 22%. See http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...arrison-Do-you-feel-cheated-by-big-fight.html

    That's how bad this was for boxing. This **** matchup belonged on free TV and nowhere then nobody would feel ripped off.
     
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  11. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Any time you get mainstream attention, it's a great thing. The few who were with you might not be more involved but many will.
     
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  12. miguel2010

    miguel2010 His hands are his weapons Full Member

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    maybe a mllion people buy both the haye and pacman bout's, but how many people do you know who order ppv boxing and sit and watch it on their own?......

    there was about 20 of us piled into my mates gaff for the haye fight, so im sure that a lot more than 1 million people seen it mate.
     
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  13. haglerwon

    haglerwon Official GTMSBT Marquez Full Member

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    Last night was **** for boxing.

    Two fights where the people who knew what they were talking about picked the exact outcomes months in advance, and people are saying we should be creaming ourselves? Puh-lease.

    I went to bed last night having made a ****-bunch of money, but I was depressed. I really would actually have preferred it if I'd been at least a little bit wrong about either of those fights and even lost a bit of cash. It would have proved boxing was fresher than I gave it credit for being.
     
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  14. Uncle Rico

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    Haye vs Harrison actually done far more harm than good. Especially here in Britain. It invited a **** load of attentiona from the casual fans, and had them hyped up for what they thought was going to be a classic heavyweight dual.

    Pacquiao vs Margarito on the other hand, was sensational.
     
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  15. Lazarus

    Lazarus Realist Full Member

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    Rico, what happened to your Audley avatar?

    Jumped the boat have we? Hope you don't do that if Khan loses ;)

    :lol: Just playin' with you.
     
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