Lastarza Said He Was Overtrained for Marciano 2

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  1. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 banned Full Member

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    Can you STFU I gave my opinion that it’s BS that it’s just plain old another fighter making an excuse for a loss (not even a very good excuse) which is a dime a dozen …I didn’t make this about Marciano in the annoying way you did like always, you started it with ME by saying “nobody is attacking Marciano” all I said was Rollie is making an excuse for his loss to Rocky lol multiple people in this thread have said the same thing so kick rocks McVey - also you started your “I totally don’t hate Rocky” BS like always in an unrelated thread with that “Who do you think would win Liston or Marciano?” (The thread has 0 relevancy to RM) “you're not answering? You don’t want to admit Liston would destroy him bro” come on are you drunk or something?
     
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  2. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    Sound like a excuse to me.
     
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  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I only drink Saturdays and Sundays.You just go on and on, and on, and on about Liston being heavier than his best opponents SFW!
     
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  4. mcvey

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    It would be an excuse if he said that was the reason he lost,but he didn't,he said Rocky had improved 5000 % since their previous fight,particularly in defence.
     
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  5. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    C´mon, it´s implied that he is saying it was the reason he lost..
     
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  6. Gazelle Punch

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    Maybe he did. Sometimes people over train for title fights…common actually. Would it have made any difference? I don’t think so. Trainers have always struggled w timing their fighters peaks at camp.
     
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  7. ETM

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    Its understandable if he did overtrain. He was getting a shot at the Heavyweight Championship of the world. At that time it was a big deal. There was no guarentee he would ever have the opportunity again.

    If Roland went a little too far in his preparation resulting in being stale both physically and mentally i could definitley see that. I might do the same thing in his position.
    That is why having a trainer like Blackburn or Futch etc of that quality is gold.
     
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  8. mcvey

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    The difference I can perhaps see is that Lastarza might again go the distance.
     
  9. mcvey

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    No ,it's not implied actually.
     
  10. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    He is implying that he was not properly trained, "ruined him", "killed him"... those are not good ways to describe a tranning camp... he is acting like that he was impaired going to the fight... and not at his best.
     
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  11. mcvey

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    Yes ,all of that but at no time in the interview does he suggest he would have won had his training camp been different,you really have to read the whole thing.
     
  12. Journeyman92

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    Seriously :ohno
     
  13. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes seriously,why do you feel so theatened by this?
    It's positively insane!
     
  14. Journeyman92

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    You don’t sound the way you think you do, the majority of folks In this thread have said it was most likely an excuse… yet you yourself seemingly feel threatened enough to make it about people “protecting” Marciano completely unprovoked? - how’d you think this thread would go? It’s a fighter making an excuse for losing to Marciano and people are right to call it out lol.
     
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  15. SolomonDeedes

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    LaStarza reportedly weighed 187 when he finished training and was surprised he was so light at the weigh-in. "Maybe it was because I didn't drink hardly any water in the last two days."

    It seems mystifying that anyone would think that was a good idea, or that if they did they would be surprised they lost weight.

    https://ibb.co/VcCZ22LH
     
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