Lastarza v Usyk

I'll second that. Usyk beats some snot out of him.

 

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Oh lol i was gonna ask about mine

 

Honestly at this point I'd say that Walcott and Charles would confidently beat Usyk. Moore has a chance. Usyk is good but he's not great yet. He got caught waaaaay too much by Chisora and looked too ordinary for me to say with confidence that he beats all of Marciano's opponents. At least not on the schedule that Marciano fought. Usyk has been pro for almost the same amount of time that Marciano was and has only a 3rd of the fights.

Higher activity might not be a bad thing for Usyk but nobody can say for certain that he would flourish.

 

He beats Lastarza more than likely imo but I brought up Marciano and the others in reference to the post I was responding to.

 

I wouldn't pick an old Charles to beat Usyk, although I would pick a prime one to. He'd slipped too much by the time of the Marciano fight to beat Usyk IMO. At first, I was debating whether or not Usyk would beat Walcott in a chess-match, but then I pick the bigger, quicker, fighter with better footwork to win a decision. Sorry, that sounded like I was being facetious, but my line of thinking is that Usyk used those advantages to out-box Walcott, and I don't think Walcott is good enough to turn into a pressure fighter and beat Usyk that way. He could sucker Usyk into some great counters though, so you never know. I think the styles favour Usyk, and I'm more impressed with Usyk on film. Also, what do you define as great, rather than good? Because I find it difficult to see that Walcott ends up fitting into one category, but Usyk doesn't. They're very close in legacy IMO. I'd give Moore the best chance of beating Usyk.

But I don't see why the Chisora fight matters here, at all. Usyk has had 350 amateur fights; seven title fights, all vs top opposition; had only fought once in a little under two years; sustained multiple injuries in that time; has been with five different trainers since his first title fight and is now 34 years old. Call me crazy, but I think it's possible we've seen his prime come and go. Not to mention, Usyk seems to fight to his level of competition. He looked like poor vs Rodriguez and Kniazev compared to how good he looked vs Głowacki. I think he's done a similar thing vs Witherspoon and Chisora. Even after taking that into account, Usyk still beat Chisora more clearly than most fighters around have done.

Usyk was clearly much better at CW. Which is the weight he'd be fighting Charles and Walcott, who're both modern day crusierweight. Neither Walcott or Charles fight anything like Chisora. In fact, Marciano himself resembles Chisora way more than they do. Furthermore, Walcott and Charles have plenty of poor performances around the time they fought Marciano. Both were 2-2 of four going into their first fights with Marciano.I think we're supposed to be taking the crusierweight version of Usyk in this fight, buy McVey will have to confirm.

But I agree, on the same schedule Marciano fought, Usyk probably picks up at least one loss. But Usyk's hardly a stranger to busy schedule TBF. He fought as an amateur all the time, all over the place, vs the best in the world with a very good record in the end. Plus, as a pro, he managed seven title fights in two years, which is about the same as Marciano did IIRC. In one offs, with Usyk at his best and the opponent's at the state they fought Marciano, I'd take Usyk over everyone he beat.