Laszlo Papp vs. Marcel Cerdan

Cerdan wins this, too big and too strong for Papp, although Laci Baci would make him know he was in a fight. Laszlo had the faster hands and feet, and was just as good if not a better combination puncher than the Frenchman and he could punch pretty hard as well.

But he was a bleeder and the naturally smaller man here, and would likely be stopped either on cuts or referee stoppage sometime in the last third of the fight if it`s scheduled for 15. Cerdan was a big, strong guy and had a much bigger bone structure than my countryman Papp and would have bullied him around in close sad to say.

But Papp was a fierce competitor and a proud man, and he would have fought back hard every step of the way and made Cerdan think twice before coming in on him in the early rounds. As the fight wears on though Cerdan will close the gap more and more, and will take over the fight and start landing with more regularity. Papp may last the distance depending on how long the fight is scheduled for, but ultimately he would lose to the skilled Frenchman.

 

LOL, the 2 most overrated middleweights ever, i pick cerdan though cuz he proved more.

 

How exactly do you figure Papp do be one of the most overrated middleweights ever? His name is never disscussed or even mentioned when talking about ATG middleweights, and he barely ever gets a talked about here or on any other forum for that matter, so how the hell is he overrated exactly?

He was more of a natural jr. middleweight anyway, and if he were to be placed on an all-time list of best fighters, it would be at 154, not 160. And I don`t think it is unreasonable to place him in the top twenty at 154... he was certainly a good and skilled enough fighter to hold his own with many very good fighters at that weight.

And anyone who wins three consecutive olympic gold medals like Papp did is a helluva fighter anyway you cut it, especially when amateur bouts back in his day resembled real bouts and were scored like one with the harder, cleaner blows getting the most points, as opposed to what we see today with all those pitty pat punches scoring points for fighters.

 

I'm sorry what did he do to get into the hall of fame

 

Nice way to avoid the question I asked you :roll: .

 

I aint avidoing ****, he didnt do much as a pro and he shouldnt be in the hall of fame, hence thats why i call him overrated, hes the least deserving member of the hall of fame.

 

I won`t dispute that he did not do enough to get into the hall of fame, but to say he is one of the most overrated middleweights of all-time is surprising to me, as no one even talks about the man on message boards. To me he is one of the most least discussed and talked about fighters on the internet, and for browpimp to say he is grossly overrated is ludicrous for the aforementioned reasons.

 

He didn`t do much as a pro that is true, but that was not his fault really. And even so, he did defeat some decent to good fighters while fighting professionaly, and was on the verge of a title shot versus Joey Giardello when the Communist regime in Hungary revoked his license to fight abroad and essentially ended his career and aspirations to be world champion.

I also don`t think he should be in the HOF, but he is hardly alone in that regard and I can think of a few others who I would rank below him. But that still doesn`t answer the question as to why you think he is overrated. How can someone be considered overrated if they are not even talked about or discussed when talking about mythical matchups or all-time great lists?

I don`t know about you, but I sure all hell ain`t never heard anyone talk about Laszlo Papp or start any fantasy matchup threads about him in all my years of posting on the net... so unless you have seen some debates about him that I haven`t, he can hardly be considered overrated. Have you ever even seen him fight?

I get the impression you haven`t, as he was a very good fighter and had he been given the chance I think he would have done well in what was a very competitive era. He was not an all-time great, but he came to fight and he came to win, and he prepared himself to do both. He could take a good punch, threw hard and fast combinations and he could hit pretty hard. To top it off he was a southpaw and an aggressive one at that, so he ain`t gonna be an easy nights work for anyone.

 

Your right Luigi, Papp`s short height would be a big handicap for him against the taller, rangier fighters of the 154 and 160 pound divisions who knew how to use their height and reach to full effect. But against fighters his height and who stood their ground more he would have success, and would beat several of them.

One fight I would have loved to have seen would be Laszlo Papp vs Frank Fletcher, now that would have been some brawl! Both men were aggressive southpaws who could take a good punch and they were also cut prone, and the fireworks are guaranteed to start early in this one... would have been an entertaining fight for sure.

 

raging bull is right papp is hardly mentioned on here.i remember not so long back i think it was luigi started a thread about which olympic gold medal winners had what could be considered succesful careers as pro's.obviously the obvious people were mentioned ali,foreman,patterson,frazier,etc. so i posted laszlo papp expecting possibly a little reaction because although undefeated in his pro career didn't go past european level.i didn't get one response.raging bull is right he can't be overrated,but he was still a mighty fine fighter all the same.