Latest Eddie Hearn interview, Wilder offer STILL on the table plus NEW Offer

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  1. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  2. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No their not because th HArdcore, generally, know what they are paying for.
     
  3. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    They requested a contract, they never received it.

    In return, Eddie sent Wilder's team a contract which was never signed.

    What part of that do you not understand?
     
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  4. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    Great post.
     
  5. MrFoFody

    MrFoFody Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why doesn’t Hearn just offer team Wilder a percentage? Hearn knows it’s going to be a much bigger fight than AJ vs Parker so why try to lowball team Wilder? Offer Wilder what they offered Parker
     
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  7. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    The thing with that is that even if Wilder beat Joshua, Joshua would still be the draw in the rematch which is why he'd still get 50/50.

    Golovkin beat Canelo and then had him fail a drugs test in the rematch build up AND had 3 major belts to Hell's none and still didn't get financial parity in the rematch.

    All that said, Eddie doesn't seem keen on this fight and team Wilder and it's 15 managers are also laughable. They've all come out of this looking like idiots, loads or both.
     
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  8. Gymbot

    Gymbot Active Member Full Member

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    Because they’ve already agreed terms.
     
  9. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Slightly different scenario. Newman offered less for a start. Newman offered Lewis $3 mill and $9 mill, a total of $12 mill, Lewis would make $17 mill in his next 2 fights, so Newman was offering him $5 mill less for fighting a bigger fight, not exactly the going market rate.

    "Newman said Lewis had been offered two chances to fight Bowe for the title: a guaranteed $3 million with a possible payoff of $15 million more for a first defense if he beat Bowe, or $3 million to fight an opponent of his choosing plus $9 million and a share of the promotion for a followup fight with Bowe."

    Wilder in comparison will be lucky if he makes $4 mill in his next 2 fights if they don't involve Joshua. Newman offered a $5 mill or a 29% pay cut, while Hearn is offering a $16 mill or 500% pay increase for Wilder.

    So while the 2 offers are similar in structure they are very different in regards to the value being offered.
     
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  10. Saintpat

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    It’s implicit in that they turned down the offer based upon where the fight would take place, the fact that it’s a month after the original offer and no mention is made of turning it down because the money was not real. It wasn’t anywhere in the conversation. There are also stories and videos in between the original $50M offer and the turndown where Eddie says negotiations are going well and moving forward. How could that be if the $$$ wasn’t real? Why would fighting in the UK be a pay cut if the original offer wasn’t genuine?

    Belive what you want to believe, but if the money wasn’t there you think they’d keep talking about that offer for an entire month and then turn it down calling it a pay cut based upon some other reason?
     
  11. Saintpat

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    They turned down $50M. They said AJ wouldn’t fight Wilder in America and would rather take a pay cut. Why work up a contract that the other side says it won’t sign?

    Wilder wouldn’t sign Eddie’s contract because it did not specify that the fight would be next, or even in 2018, and had no rematch clause should he lose. They wanted equity in the rematch clause — he’s taking short money to fight in the UK so he wanted to get paid in the second fight, which is reasonable ... and there’s no second fight in the contract if he loses but there is if he wins ... so they wanted either a two-way rematch clause or no rematch clause.

    They were willing to work those things out and Eddie had more than a week to answer those questions and work them out but instead let the clock run out. AJ’s side was NOT willing to fight in the USA for $50M and said so publicly. Wilder WAS willing to go the UK even taking less money but wanted the fight to be next, not at some uncertain date in the future after a Povetkin-AJ fight and wanted equity in any rematch clause.
     
  12. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    They never sent the contract for the 50 mil offer, that's when Hearn said you know what we'd rather do the fight in the UK so here's our offer. He only sent his offer after Wilder's team never sent a contract for the 50 mil offer.
     
  13. dinovelvet

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    Two reason why the value is different.

    1. Inflation.
    2. Wilder is a champion whereas Lewis was a challenger.

    Beating Wilder makes Joshua the undisputed Champion , but Bowe was already the undisputed champion so Lewis was being offered exactly what he was worth as a mandatory challenger.

    Hearns is sending Wilder contracts as if he's a random challenger , but people forget that Wilder will make Joshua a historical champion if he wins so that commands a better deal and a percentage split of the purse.
     
  14. gdm

    gdm Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yea but how much is ppv in UK, like $19 lol ??
     
  15. The Clan

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    There is and never was $50 Million on offer, it was all talk and proof of funds were never provided, It might as well have been $50 Billion because it was never real!

    You can’t arrange a fight in September for a number of reasons, first and foremost Wilder would have to sign a contract which he is evidently unwilling to do. Secondly GGG Vs Alvarez is set for September and there isn’t the will or the finances available from a broadcaster or PPV fan base to do 2 superfights in September, they simply could not generate the funds for this to make sense. The only time September ever looked remotely possible was when The GGG Vs Alvarez fight was definitely off. Thirdly, but not finally, you have to have an available venue and neither The Principality or Wembley stadium were available.

    Take the time to inform yourself about the actions of all parties concerned from both sides and it is as clear as the nose on your face that Finkel is the fly in the ointmen, not Wilder, Joshua or Hearn!
     
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