Lb 4 Lb: What Does It All Mean?

It's used to compare fighters at different weights since they can never fight each other.

First introduced to compare greats joe Louis and sugar Ray Robinson.

 

pound for pound means that if #3 Vlad Klit were the same size as Froch, he would pummel Froch, which I believe would happen ,,,,,,however if Manny Pac were the same size as Vlad he would pummel Vlad which Im sure beyond a shadow of a doubt would also happen


pound for pound means if two fighters were in the same weight class who would win....... it is hypothetical and subjective hence even though people swore Adrian Broner would beat Maidana he didn't. Just like Lomachenko didn't beat Salido you just never know.

 

It really didn't start with Sugar Ray Robinson. That's a myth. He popularized the term, but it was used by writers decades before SRR fought.

It just generally means who would win if they all were the same size. The thing is, what about dimensions? Wladimir Klitschko is tall and rangy. His ability to use this to his advantage and control the distance is a big part of his game. Lennox Lewis is another fighter who used his height and range well. Floyd Mayweather is not tall, but he is rangy. Sonny Liston, Marvin Hagler, and Shane Mosley had very long arms for their height. Mike Tyson was short and stocky for a heavyweight. His arms seemed short too, but his wingspan is average. His wingspan is roughly his height, 71 inches.

If we are saying "who wins pound-for-pound?" between two fighters, we're assuming they are the same weight. What about height and reach?

 

If Wlad was some welterweight version of himself, a 6′1 Hearns type welterweight, he'd absolutely destroy Floyd

 

Wladimir is no Hearns. They are both tall and rangy with right hand power, difficult to box at long range, without the greatest chins.

Hearns was faster (although Wlad had pretty good handspeed as a HW), better on his feet, better compsure under fire, better punch resistance, better body puncher (a hugely overlooked part of his arsenal). He bombed out big punchers and outboxed great boxers.

 

:deal Because if you dont use P4P Chris Arreolla is greater than SRR because he would beat him if they fought...

 

No ****

 

Yeah Hearns and Wlad are very different. I was talking physically. If you think of Wlad as a welterweight obviously you can't think of those midgets Floyd is fighting at that weight these days but as a big welter as he is a big heavyweight

Hearns threw the right hand almost like as if his fist was a flail. technically completely different to what Wlad does. I think Hearns would have a harder time catching Floyd than Wlad and also if Hearns and Wlad fought, i'd think that its most likely gonna be Wlad who lands something big first..

 

:nono Remember you have to take into account that Wlad would have same brain, and he simply fights scared and gives to much respect to every fighter he faces, Hearns liked to mix it up and would attack more fiercely than Wlad, and Wlad aint counter puncher so more likely is for Hears to land big right.
Remember how Wlad respected Haye power he didnt go for the finish whole fight, Wlad has tremendous power and thats what leads to his KO wins, he has 0 killer instinct!

 

Wlad fights strategically not scared, almost surgically. he will never take any chances as long as hes winning and thats all he cares about
Wlad would have an easier time parrying Hearns right hand than Hearns would have somehow blocking Wlads, due to Wlads more advanced defensive shell on one hand but also because Wlads is much straighter and also he does throw it extremely short against opponents his size.. Hearns put more work in closer ranges but got forearm focused technically and not really dangerous in terms of causing immediate damage

 

Yeah sure, not fighting scared really showed against Chambers Steward had to yell at him like he is 10 years old to stop Chambers, but i guess Emanuel didnt know it was "strategically", even though he is the man that made Wlad what he is, he simply doesnt have killer instinct.

 

P4P is a quality measure

P4P punching power example:

160 lbs/ best punch registers a 1200 value (GGG)
175 lbs/ best punch registers a 1450 value (SKK)
230 lbs/ best punch registers a 1575 value (Wilder)
245 lbs/ best punch registers a 1575 value (Wladdy)

P4P = punch value/lbs

So P4P values are:
8.3 SKK
7.5 Wilder
7.5 GGG
6.0 Wladdy

According to this hypothetical example
SKK P4P is the hardest puncher of all
Wilder & GGG are P4P harder punchers than Wlad
Wlad & Wilder scored the highest value on punching

Adonis Superbitch Stevenson is well aware of sKull Krusher Kovalev power, thats why he is making superbitch moves