Learned fighter vs. Natural fighter.

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  1. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Give an example of a fighter who had to learn to be a fighter, and a fighter who's a natural fighter.

    For the former, I'd say Wlad. For the latter, I'd say Vitali.
     
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    Learned = JMM, Floyd

    Natural = Pac
     
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    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    PBF was both he inherited his fighting genes from his father and his 2 uncles were boxers as well. Boxing was in his blood.
     
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    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good example. I normally say Wlad was an athlete. Vitali was a fighter.

    Natural someone fighter someone like Andre Ward..mayne not a first thoughts but type of fighter who didnt need a trainer in the corner.

    Sergio Martinez took up the sport late. Had to come up with his own style to be a success but learned how to be a fighter
     
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    Floyd was born into a boxing family. There's pictures of him as a baby wearing gloves. He's 100% learned.

    Pac randomly walked into a boxing gym with the intent of making some extra money to help out his family, not with dreams of becoming a prize fighter. He discovered that he could fight. He's natural.
     
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    Natural: Duran dempsey mayorga basically anyone who fought in the street before the gym

    Learned: algieri Mitchell washington guys who aren't from tough areas or failed in other sports but have the athletic ability and discipline to make it in boxing
     
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    Pretty good call.
     
  8. Vigilance777

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    Learned fighter: Canelo Alvarez, a true student of the sport. I've had my doubts about him, and a lot of his wins have an asterisk on them, but damned if he doesn't dedicate himself so fully to boxing. It's artful how much he's improved over the years.

    Natural fighter: Gennady Golovkin, raised on the mean streets of war-torn Kazakhstan, tough as nails, heavy-handed to knock people out...naturally. Seems to actually enjoy the blood and guts of boxing (I don't buy the nice guy act). You can't help but admire that war spirit.
     
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    Hopkins, Holyfield & Toney are natural.

    Wilder & AJ learned.
     
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    Natural,, Frazier ,Duran
    Learned, Ali, Mayweather
     
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    Learned: De La Hoya, Spinks
    Natural: Fighters like Pryor, Chavez and Saad Muhammad comes to mind.
     
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    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder didn't learn ****.
     
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    Naz natural

    Mab lerarned
     
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    Fury, bjs, Pacman, Jones Jr, Leonard, plant- natural
    Learned- Loma, usyk, GGG, AJ,
    Most top fighters have natural ability, so it's hard to say
     
  15. Vigilance777

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    Of course, there's overlap between the two categories. Canelo is tough and naturally gifted, and GGG is technically so good. However, biting into the generalization, I opine below.

    Other learned fighters, showing technical skill through dedication to the craft:
    Austin Trout
    James Toney
    Danny Garcia
    Mauricio Herrera (Danny's daddy)
    ODLH
    Anthony Joshua
    Terence Crawford
    Viktor Postol
    Oleksandr Usyk
    George Groves

    Other natural fighters, where their natural ability shines through a lot. Or, where they were born to knock you tf out:
    Roy Jones Jr.
    Amir Khan
    Yuriorkis Gamboa
    Josesito Lopez
    David Lemieux
    Tony Bellew
    Carl Froch
    Erik Morales

    Of course there are COUNTLESS others...

    Then you have a perfect balance, imo, of raw toughness and boxing skill, like Fernando El Feroz Vargas.