Least athletic world champion?

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  1. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    If you become a legit world champion, then you are athletic enough, and how do you define athleticism?
     
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  2. JohnThomas1

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    I find it hard to believe one of the greatest H2H fighters at 175 (maybe even the greatest) is the least athletic champion ever. He had stupendous power in both hands and was never ragdolled at 175, or heavyweight for that matter. Christ what long reigning ex 175 wouldn't be belted by Tyson.
     
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  3. Storm-Chaser

    Storm-Chaser Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think it's a tie between
    Spinks is slightly over rated. But I am impressed with his boxing career just not his build or athleticism. Plus he lacked knockout power. I'd place him in the top 50 of all time but nothing more.
     
  4. Journeyman92

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    What does it mean to be athletic in a boxing sense?
     
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  5. JohnThomas1

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    Jesus he is one of the greatest punchers in the history of 175. You should check out his career at 175 some time as you must not be aware of it - at all.
     
  6. Storm-Chaser

    Storm-Chaser Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ok will do
     
  7. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This guy's never seen a Spinks fight besides the Tyson loss, no use arguing with a dummy.
     
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  8. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Rocky Marciano? There's a pretty loose definition of what being "athletic" means though. Onr guy could be super explosive but have poor coordination for most sports, another guy could be pretty average speed but have the brain and timing for sports. Who is more athletic?
     
  9. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Try again. Of the footage that exists of Willard the Dempsey fight is one of the shortest films. The battering you mention lasts nine minutes. On the other hand his best performance, his victory over Jack Johnson runs well over an hour. His victory over Frank Moran runs nearly 30 minutes. The extent footage of his victory over Floyd Johnson runs nearly six minutes. In addition to that we have footage of his loss to Firpo and tons of training footage. The guy was neither fast, nor coordinated, nor any semblance of "athletic". He was big, and strong, and particularly against a fat, dissipated, and aging Johnson he was able to use those "gifts" to his advantage. But he was one of the least athletic champions I can think of.
     
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  10. yotam bing

    yotam bing Member Full Member

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    You are right about the footage, i miss spoke i ment most of what people have seen. And he was certainley uncoordinated but he wasn't slow (for such a big man). he wasn't super athletic or anything but, in my opinion at least, he wasn't among the least athletic of all time
     
  11. yotam bing

    yotam bing Member Full Member

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    Carlos baldomir would be my pick
     
  12. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    Historically, Greg Page, Trevor Berbick, John Ruiz or Tony Tubbs.

    We can also throw in Jorge Castro and Victor Galindez.
     
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  13. Roughhouse

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    Eddie Gazo would be my first choice. Even looked clumsy when we won the title in Japan. If he was on American Ninja Warrior, I'm thinking he falls off those slanted lily pads at the start into the drink.
     
  14. Drew101

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  15. JackSilver

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    Frank Bruno standing still looked like a million dollars with the kind of bodybuilder physique that could make Norton an Weaver look undertrained but when it came to moving his body he looked so stiff that he looked like he was fighting underwater. Movie zombies moved more athletically than bruno
     
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