Least number of punches thrown in a title fight

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  1. hagman1989

    hagman1989 the boxing site , try it Full Member

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    WHATS THAT GOT TO DO WITH ANYTHING

    also england 2 germany 0
    (you started the off boring bull****)
     
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  2. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    NO it doesn't.

    quality > quantity
     
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  3. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    Because it would have showed he tried to connect, it says something about the fighters intent. In Johnson's case however it was indeed merely flailing his arms towards Vitali instead of truly punching. I admit it's not equal. Haye was a bit less shitty than Johnson.
     
    RDJ, Dec 18, 2009
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  4. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    It tells me a lot, that the only people defending Haye's shitfest are British, because the only reason you're defending it is chauvinism.

    I'm not German buddy.
     
    RDJ, Dec 18, 2009
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  5. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Judges scoring fights on 'workrate' is ruining boxing :twisted:

    Take Williams/ Martinez for example. In round 11 Williams lands 32, Martinez 33. Nobody would argue that Martinez laned the cleaner, more effective punches. Yet Williams, at least according to one judge, wins the round :huh

    Walking forward and flurrying at thin air is NOT effective aggression. You can make an argument in a case like Calzaghe/ Hopkins where one guys is shoeshining and one is throwing only a couple of punches a round, but Martinez and Williams landed the same number of punches.
     
    Polymath, Dec 18, 2009
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  6. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    No it wouldn't, it would show that his work was less measured, with less thought behind it and he was relying on the law of averages that some of the punches he was flinging about must find the target. Haye's 'intent' was to find the target with every punch, make everyone count and not waste any.

    Again, I fail to see why that is inferior.

    The more we get into this, the more I really start to wonder about what you value in a boxer.
     
    Cobbler, Dec 18, 2009
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  7. ChrisPontius

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    I don't have punch stats, but i'd be surprised if Briggs averaged more than 20 per round against Liakhovic. What a stinker, especially if you consider that Liakhovic' fight before that was perhaps the heavyweight battle of the decade with Brewster.

    Doesn't beat Haye vs Valuev though. That record will stand for a long time.
     
    ChrisPontius, Dec 18, 2009
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  8. wingchung

    wingchung Active Member Full Member

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    Without a doubt Haye. Threw 143 punchs. Pathetic and got the wba title. Evander should be the wba champ. He actually fought and beat Valuev for the title.
     
    wingchung, Dec 18, 2009
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  9. RDJ

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    Because the total number is pathetic. By that logic you could throw one single punch, and you'd win the title as long as the other person landed none.

    I expect at least a bit offensive mindedness. Don't get me wrong I like defensive boxing off the back foot, but this went far beyond defensive boxing, it was just being defensive period.
     
    RDJ, Dec 18, 2009
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  10. Fan2010

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    :thumbsup
     
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  11. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    But why would you value 'offensive mindedness' over actually hitting your opponent?

    It doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

    Fighter A throws 400 punches and lands 80.
    Fighter B throws 100 punches and lands 90.

    Which has fought more credibly?
     
    Cobbler, Dec 18, 2009
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  12. wingchung

    wingchung Active Member Full Member

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    You expected to much man. I also expected far more.
     
    wingchung, Dec 18, 2009
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  13. wingchung

    wingchung Active Member Full Member

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    Valuev cause he tryed to make a fight happen and Haye ran the whole fight.
     
    wingchung, Dec 18, 2009
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  14. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    What question do you think you're answering? :?
     
    Cobbler, Dec 18, 2009
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  15. RDJ

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    I think Haye won, I just don't have any respect at all for the way he did it. Pathetic, embarrassing, those are the terms that come to mind.
     
    RDJ, Dec 18, 2009
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