Least talented fighters to

James Jeffries, Gene Fullmer


Fullmer has unbelievable combination of toughness, heart, strength, durability that enabled him to break his opponent somewhere during the fight


Jeffries had tremendous athleticism strength toughness that made up for his lack of skill and punching skills

 

I think Mike Tyson had a deep complex about his lack of size (height) but he sure did the best with the tools he was blessed with..

 

Interesting user name, I actually watched Biggs fight Tyson today. He would of been a beltholder if Tyson wasn't there.

 

I agree, am I the only one who was impressed with a young Tyrell Biggs? to me the man was superbly talented with a remarkable left jab, and had some extreme skills and handspeed for a 6'5 220lb fighter. I personally think like the way marciano ruined rex layne, mike tyson ruined tyrell biggs both mentally and physically in there fight. biggs never recaptured that fire. he had some very good performances leading up to the tyson fight.

 

Biggs impressed me. He took A TON of punishment from Tyson, left hooks, uppercuts, you name it Tyson was hitting him with it from the 2nd round on. Biggs actually would of been better served had he went down early instead of sustaining that massive beating.

Had Tyson not been there Biggs would of been a solid beltholder. He wasn't ATG quality but he was a good skilled HW.

 

Defintley, he could have been another pinklon thomas/tim witherspoon/tony tubbs type very good contender.


How do you think Holyfield would have done against tyson in 88? perhaps better, take anyone version of hoylfield you want and place him against 88 tyson, how do you think he does? I personally think holy was at his best 88-92. my opinion is tyson stops him under 5 rounds.

 

Biggs had looked like **** before Tyson.he clearly wasn't ready for the fight.

 

Jake LaMotta comes to mind, but even his talents are often overlooked and unrecognised. Is subhuman toughness and grit a talent? If not he's an ok mention early thread.

 

I guess we are looking at fighters without both blazing handspeed and/or big power for starters. Tough hard grind you down merchants with unerring will and determination.

 

I think the Holyfield that DID beat Tyson had the best chance to beat the 87/88 Tyson. Even though the 88-92 Holyfield does the best against most ATGs in my view, the 96 one was stronger than any other version and best equipped to take the big bombs which Tyson IS going to land. The smaller lighter Holyfield wouldn't be able to survive against prime time Tyson and gets finished within 6-7.

The older one, even though he was slower, his reflexes were slowed etc. showed up against Tyson being more focused and motivated than any other version. I also think the additional muscle he added would help him be able to take Tysons punches better. But Tyson would still take it against this Holyfield, when they actually fought Tyson wobbled him but didn't have the stamina/mental toughness of the 80s one to sustain it and Evander broke him down. Holyfield isn't breaking down 80s Tyson in my opinion and gets finished off late in the fight but it would be tough...

 

I agree he should of taken more fights and got more of a reputation rather than rush in against Tyson at the height of his powers. If he had a few more wins it would of been a huge superfight. I guess his managers figured he wasn't good enough to beat the other top fighters without sustaining a loss or two in the process, but I don't know, Biggs was a good fighter.

 

I said this in a different thread here, but Locche was a fighter that looked like he sold fruit at the market. He is not impressive in a visual sense at all. I would hardly say that he was fast. He lacked power, height, & etc.

But he was a telepathic mutant that had a sixth/seventh sense, & weave his way through danger-all the while with a wise arse smirk on his face.

 

John,


Jake lamotta had very underated skill. even past his prime and weight drained in 1951 watch how many jabs he slips of the great ray robinson, his upper body movement was outstanding.

 

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