Lederman scored the first round of Ortiz vs Maidana 10-10...

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  1. boxeo#1

    boxeo#1 Boxer-Puncher banned

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    Yeah I know this:rofl;)
    But I mean a knockdown is usually -1 extra point. An example is Marquez vs Pacquaio I round 1.
     
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    No!? Than please explain 10-7, 10-6 rounds when guys are knocked down multiple times without point deductions..
     
  3. boxeo#1

    boxeo#1 Boxer-Puncher banned

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    Assuming you are correct, it's clear for me now. Thanks.
     
  4. boxeo#1

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    :blood:lol:WHY?
     
  5. istmeno

    istmeno Well-Known Member Full Member

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    it is a deduction if only 1 fighter is knocked down. the winner of the round MUST receieve 10 points.

    using your example. it could have been 10-6. but if pac would have been knocked down, it would not be 9-6, but rather 10-7 in essence a knockdown can be erased by another knockdown.
     
  6. Larryboys

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    Some people don't seem to fully understand the 10 point must system. A knockdown is not an automatic point loss like a foul is, is usually results in a 10-8 round but does not have to, if the guy who got knocked down fights back well enough. He could still win the round if he whips ass for 2:50 of a round but gets a fluke knockdown in there.

    [QUOTENo!? Than please explain 10-7, 10-6 rounds when guys are knocked down multiple times without point deductions.. ][/QUOTE]

    One guy MUST get 10 points, the other gets as many as the judge feels, it's up to his discretion. A bad ass whipping without a knockdown can result in 10-8 or 10-7. Multiple knockdowns are usually an indication of a dominant round so may get 10-7, but there is not a set system of -1 point per knockdown.
     
  7. Chillman

    Chillman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Watch the infamous seventh round of Sergio Gabriel Martinez vs Cintron.
     
  8. boxeo#1

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    Just saw it. Weird sh*t went on in that round.
     
  9. EL CABALLO

    EL CABALLO Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ah,... NO.

    AH, HMM, AFTER CAREFUL THOUGHT, NO AGAIN!
    http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=895105

    http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=895105
    IF this doesn't work, sorry I don't know how to make it, but it's fairly simple... just google "boxing scoring system" and choose the 1 with the "everything2.com" address... :good
     
  10. istmeno

    istmeno Well-Known Member Full Member

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    "Everything2 is a collection of USER-submitted writings about, well, pretty much everything. Use the search box or follow the links to explore"

    this is the site that you are using as reference. basically it is another wikipedia. that post was probably made by someone with as much knowledge on how to score a fight as you do.

    don't take my word for it or italiricans, but i am pretty damn sure harold lederman knows what the hell he is doing and he scored the round 10-10
     
  11. The Italarican

    The Italarican Pretty Good Poster Full Member

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    As I said, the writer is mistaken. You are citing an obscure internet article written by someone with the username RevJim23 on a non-boxing website. He cites two sources that are not internet accessible now, so I will presume he misread or misinterpreted something in those references.

    Just to exemplify my point about the point-deduction part, here is a copy of the official printout for the Cotto-Clottey scorecards. Notice there is a separate column for point deductions. This because the point deduction is separate from the initial scoring of the round, in which the winner must receive 10 points.

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    Here is the Nevada Atheltic Commission's statute for boxing rules:

    http://leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-467.html#NRS467Sec030

    NAC 467.612 Method of judging boxing contest or exhibition. (NRS 467.030) 1. Each judge of a boxing contest or exhibition that is being judged shall score the contest or exhibition and determine the winner through the use of the following system:
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    (b) If the round is even, each boxer receives 10 points.
    (c) No fraction of points may be given.
    (d) Points for each round must be awarded immediately after the end of the period of unarmed combat in the round.
    2. After the end of the boxing contest or exhibition, the announcer shall pick up the scores of the judges from the Commission’s desk. The majority opinion is conclusive and, if there is no majority, the decision is a draw.
    3. When the representative of the Commission has checked the scores, he shall inform the announcer of the decision and the announcer shall inform the audience of the decision over the speaker system.
    [Athletic Comm’n, § 42, eff. 7-3-79]—(NAC A 12-13-82; 12-2-97)


    You'll probably continue to believe that mistaken article, but I just want to assure the others out there so they don't get the wrong idea. In the unified rules of boxing, the winner of the round must receive 10 points.
     
  12. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Unless they have a point deducted by penalty. (just saying it so the guys gets it)
     
  13. The Italarican

    The Italarican Pretty Good Poster Full Member

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    Pretty much, but he first receives 10 points for winning the round, is awarded 10 points on the scorecard, then a point is deducted from that round's points. It ends up being the same but exemplifies that he still gets 10 points for winning the round; he just loses one as well for the point deduction.
     
  14. EL CABALLO

    EL CABALLO Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Harold Lederman scoring the rd. 10-10 is not the issue here, and you must know that pretty well!! The score can definitely be a 10-10. What we/I are/am trying to clarify in here is that a rd. can actually be scored 9-9 or 9-7 and so on... it doesn't have to ALWAYS be 10 to something!
    :rofl BTW, LEDERMAN ISSSSSSSSSS actually quoted at the bottom of the article as one of the only two sources in the bibliography of this article..:D:p
     
  15. eze

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    Yea but the only way it can be scored 9- whatever is with the winner having a point deducted by penalty.