Lee Oma vs. 2017 heavyweights

What's with this Loughran beat Carnera stuff?
Problem with your thesis is the guys who were beating him fought just as frequently.
It didn't seem to bother Harry Greb,Battling Levinsky ,or Henry Armstrong, to name just three, too much!

 

Oh,well in that case-------

 

Well they all had overall positive results under those matchmaking circumstances. Some more than others.

But tell me this. How does one of the sports greatest of all time lose to Joe Chip?

 

Are Jeffries and Louis the only two ATGs pre 1950 without obscure losses on their resume?

Yet it seems like most top 100 fighter have these clean pretty records today? Why do you think that is?

 

He made him stumble more than once.

An interesting phenom regarding this site.

You have so many people like you, mcvey, glass city...that talk down to people and argue so passionately but I have seen little evidence to suggest you actually watch boxing. So what's the deal?

 

Don't worry guys, more cagey Oma gifs....

Yes, he ultimately lost but Oma is laughing at and clowing Ezzard ****ing Charles

[url]http://makeagif.com/gif/ezzard-charles-vs-lee-oma-world-heavyweight-title-1951-01-12-extended-highlights-N5b-XI[/url]

(makes Charles miss and slip off balance again, laughs in Charles face as the gif cuts)


[url]http://makeagif.com/gif/ezzard-charles-vs-lee-oma-world-heavyweight-title-1951-01-12-extended-highlights-VriPAs[/url]

(really good foot work, slipping Charles)


[url]http://makeagif.com/gif/ezzard-charles-vs-lee-oma-world-heavyweight-title-1951-01-12-extended-highlights-NE-cIb[/url]

(Charles misses 3 left hooks and after the gif runs out, a right cross)

 

Oma was clearly a talented and crafty boxer. Frustrating a prime Charles is not an easy task.

But as I already noted, he was a party animal, and inconsistent. I don't think there is any question of that.

 

Why cant people discuss rather than argue, Lee Oma wasnt bad, he wasnt great but he wasnt bad. He was ranked that should be enough instead pointing that he lost so many fights, he did enough to be rated, in a tough era among the lessor lights of the time. A fighters condition weighs heavily as a factor in keeping a winning streak going, and Oma was known to train by chasing after woman.
Here is an article which will fill in some blanks not all but some.
[url]http://www.boxing.com/lee_oma_the_clown_prince_of_sock.html[/url]

 

Lee Oma knocks any heavyweight champion from Ali till this very day in less than a round. He did have a draw with the legendary 177 pound Ted Lowry ,who beat boxing God Marciano and got robbed in their first fight. Lowry was clearly one of the best ever with his amazing 70-68 career record ,yet still good enough to beat Marciano. If Lee could draw with somebody as good as Lowry who beat somebody even better than life itself like Marciano then who could beat Oma? Seriously.

 

A couple gifs do not a convincing argument make.

Seriously, snippets of action can not be extrapolated to some global conclusion. That's just hack sportscenter highlight reel reasoning.

 

Notice how the guy who posted the gifs isn't making much of an argument.
He's describing whats happening in the gifs.
What global conclusion is he extrapolating? That's what kevin does.

He'll take a gif showing Marciano landing 3 punches, and his description of the action will be "Marciano had such bad power, his punches couldn't even KO his opponent until round 9!"

 

Why argue against Oma so strongly when it's obvious you have not viewed the Charles fight?

That's the only conclusion I can draw when you say things like "he once made Charles stumble"

You also call Oma a "plodder" when he actually fights off the back foot and uses lots of awkward lateral and defensive movement in the Charles footage. His foot work and head movement just aren't characteristic of what is normally labeled as "plodder"

 

My gifs do not make my argument, they are visual aids I select to emphasize a particular sequence or point that stands out to me. What is the problem?

I'm not stopping anyone from viewing the fights, I'm actively encouraging it.

 

@mcvey

Do you think Joe Chip could beat a top 10 ranked MW today?
How did a guy like that beat an all time monster like Greb?

How come it was typical for fighters in that era to have those kinds of losses on their records? You almost never see that with any prospect today. You don't find it odd?