Lee vs Martinez back on, HBO reject Zbik

the thing is that there isnt a big Irish boxing fanbase that attends fights anymore. Duddy was the exception, Duddy was a sales phenomenon because he tapped into the working class first generation Irish in Queens and the suburbs - Lee isnt connected with the same crowd.

there is a massive casual fanbase that can be awoken when a big fighter comes about and especially during St Patricks week. Anything Irish sells that week and not just to the Irish.

 

manny has said goldenboy and toprank want to sign andy but he wants him to freelance and not tied down so he can fight in ireland and elsewhere .there is a good few irish fighters based in america well more than british fighters and if you compare the popultions you would realize theres quite a big percentage of irish fighters in the USA

 

Why do you think that is Slap? Other sports? That Irish population has moved upward socially and away from boxing?

just thinking aloud....:think

 

not as many Irish emigrating - that could all change soon - but still Ireland is a more sophisticated country now and those leaving aint all scrappers and brickies - my likely to be professionals and IT consultants.

the second generation in the US are, like a lot of white kids, drawn to MMA.

the traditional inter-ethnic rivallries between neighbourhoods are all but dead now.

mix all of those together and is sums up to a "no one gives a **** anymore unless its St Patties (sic) Day" type of attitude.

They are still more likely to buy a PPV though or an ordinary Yank is more likely to buy into a fight with Lee talking it up as opposed to Zbik etc

 

Gotcha, I figured MMA would be in there as a reason somewhere!!

 

Didnt realise you were such a snob, I know many a Irish trademan over in the big apple, considered going myself, but wont now as I being a humble plasterer wont want to feel too out of place in the Irish bars among all them professional and it consultants:rofl

 

I wasnt having a go at brickies (or scrappers), some of my best friends are brickies (and scrappers!)

But as a former tiler and labourer on sites in New York, believe me when I tell you the demographic of the average emigrant is siginificantly different than it was only ten years ago - and actually they arent even bothering with the States these days due to immigration control and are heading for Oz

 

There won't be hardly any Irish migrating to the US unless they are being transferred from the company they work for. It is very tough to get into unless its to study and who wants to pay US college prices?