left hook lounge reporting pac not doing additional testing for the bradley rematch

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  1. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    Chris L. (Tampa, FL): Timothy Bradley is reported to be paying for VADA testing out of his pocket, but there was no mention of Manny Pacquiao participating. Did I miss something or have the two sides mutually decided to take part in different testing?

    Vivek W. (ESB): This is a topic I’ve grown tired to discussing, but since I haven’t on a wide scale, I will in very short and specific terms. Just to look at the sequence of events in totality, initially Bradley stated that he extended with Top Rank because they gave him “everything he wanted”. A few days later, the press tour began to promote the rematch with Pacquiao, yet Bradley was quoted as saying “everything is worked out except the drug testing”. He followed that statement by saying he “expects it all to be worked out shortly”. What followed was something that left me totally disgusted! What we learned is that Timothy Bradley, being a clean athlete ready and willing to demonstrate that, has decided to move forward with VADA testing….but here’s the catch:
    He’ll pay for the VADA testing out of his own pocket, and he’ll be the only participant. Unfortunately, despite taking the VADA style testing in his previous fight, Pacquiao has decided that VADA is no longer good enough, and instead, he will take the standard Nevada State Athletic Commission testing which is said to be monitored by WADA (World Anti Doping Agency). Anyone familiar with the testing protocol knows that WADA doesn’t actually do testing, they monitor the testing of each jurisdiction (in American it’s USADA, in Jamaica, it’s JADCO, etc). So in an effort to confirm, I did a little research and it was revealed and once again confirmed that the Nevada State Athletic Commission doesn’t have ground troops in the Philippines, so basically, Pacquiao will not do ANY TESTING until he reaches U.S. soil with about two weeks prior to the fight.
    That to me is sickening! He took a huge step in following through with testing the in his last fight, but suddenly now, the agency that he claimed to be most credible is the very one he is opting not to work with; instead using the agency with the greatest threshold for error. I don’t agree with (yet can understand) those who gave the alibi in the past that he “shouldn’t have to concede to Mayweather’s demands” by taking a test outside of those called upon by the regular state and sanctioning body. But in this case, Mayweather has no involvement, yet again he has decided to sidestep a true testing protocol in favor of one that comes with mixed signals. I can’t respect that and I definitely detest that! It’s the type of decision that has created this atmosphere of speculation around him, and it doesn’t help that it comes on the heels of his most abysmal performance during his great run!
    I respect Pacquiao as a warrior in the sport and a guy who’s heart I adore. But I can now publicly say that what was once a question is now an answer (in my mind): Something is definitely not clean about Manny Pacquiao! There’s no way to reasonably defend this action. If you have nothing to hide, you don’t want cut-off dates, you don’t want questions, and you don’t want speculation. You want participation and vindication! Bradley said he “got everything [he] wanted”. I wonder if he knew that an outlet for his most dangerous opponent to sidestep drug test was part of the package? Sad……


    SOURCE : http://www.eastsideboxing.com/2014/24909/

    thoughts ? can we confirm if this is a reliable source ?
     
  2. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    This is what I personally was speculating through the whole fiasco.

    Bad news for Team Bradley and disappointing news from Team Pacquiao.

    No testing for Pac until he hits US soil? Flip flopping on the testing agency, which only months before he seemed to be so decided and passionate about? Weak stuff...
     
  3. robert80

    robert80 Boxing Addict banned

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    manny, is taking usda testing via the back door. does his team not realise the rules are layed down by wada, who issue the guidelines to usda? What an ass his team are!
     
  4. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    Are you guys taking Viviek Wallace seriusly? Ha.. ha..
     
  5. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    He is simply reporting what all of the other previous statements, from Top Rank and the NSAC, are saying.

    Edit: And no, I'm unfamiliar with him. I never read the ESB front page.
     
  6. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    I'll wait for more sources to confirm this before taking this seriously.
     
  7. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Can't find any other source reporting this yet.
     
  8. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    They've been out for like 2 weeks.

    The only thing I learned in the article is that USADA has no "approved" testing facilities in the Philippines.

    All of that stuff about refusing VADA and agreeing with USADA through the NSAC was reported by Koncz, Arum, and the dude who runs the NSAC (forget his name... Kizer, maybe? If my life depended on it that's what I'd guess?).

    Even if he gets tested in the Philippines, it's awfully weird for him to go to USADA after he and his team previously claimed over the years that it was a corrupt organization that he would never agree to sign up with for a potential Mayweather fight. They demanded VADA. And now VADA isn't good enough after the Rios fight.

    In the end, major props to Bradley!
     
  9. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Their refusal of USADA is a tactical move to continue ignoring Mayweather and I can't blame them for that. I just hope no testing is done for this fight and hopefully they allow the commission to take care of it as they have for decades already. As far as I remember Rios was caught thanks to the official testing.
     
  10. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Rios was caught because Pacquiao, for the first time in his career, agreed to testing BEYOND that of the local commission. They used VADA for that fight.

    As for Pacquiao refusing USADA to ignore Mayweather, yes they did that for a couple years. But now they are actually using them instead of VADA after all of that talk about how crappy and unprofessional USADA is.
     
  11. v2k987

    v2k987 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is Vivek Wallace? Might as well read an article written by my 3 year old niece.

    The scene reported that the Nevada State Athletic Commission are going to do extra testing using WADA protocols.
     
  12. progamer

    progamer Boxing Junkie banned

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    isnt nevada doing random urine/blood for the pac-bradley rematch (same as bradley-marquez)?

    hire wada accredited sample collection company.
    send samples to wada accredited lab.
    analyze result per wada protocol.

    (PENALIZE ANYONE THAT TESTS POSITIVE which both usada/vada cant do).


    this is basically what usada/vada are doing.

    usada/vada have no jurisdiction over pro boxing.

    look what usada did to morales positive test.

    tried to hide it.

    when it was leaked out, they let garcia decide what to do with the fight.

    this is what pedjr paid 100 grand for? pretty useless.
     
  13. robert80

    robert80 Boxing Addict banned

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    you forgot this smart ass, He is using an accredited WADA LAB, WHICH IN TURN INSTRUCTS & USES USDA PROTOCOLS, GET IT IDIOT!
     
  14. lester proctor

    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lol Vivek Wallace. They're doing the same testing they did for Bradley Jmm. Getting the commission to boost their testing standards is a major step forward, unless you're an aw shucks Pac hater like the TS and the usual cryers
     
  15. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Balcquiaos back on that ****