Legacy or Money

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  1. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If you were a boxer, which would be more important? Or would it be a weighted decision on a fight by fight basis and a combination of both? Honest....
     
  2. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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  3. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Arguments can be made for all three. Seems to me though, if you go for legacy, money will follow in most cases.
     
  4. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Precisely, I'd seek the best and not just 'big names', but literally the best. If I was moving to LHW, I'd go for Chad Dawson, not Bernard Hopkins, Dawson in the end brings the more legacy points.

    I'd also go for Calzaghe, but I'd get ****ing annihilated, I could say I did my best.:yep
     
  5. garymcfall

    garymcfall Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Id fight everyone, if i was at heavyweight right now id fight both Klitschos, Peter, Holyfield, Chaegev, Valuev, Maskaev, Rahman and Tua because not only would they make me some money theyd leave me with the best legacy i could get.
     
  6. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Both, but more so with money.

    You can't make life easy for your grandkids and uncles and closest friends by saying "I was one of the greatest fighters ever, can I borrow some money?"

    It's easy to say legacy, but hell, when I'm at work, I'm thinking about my paycheck.

    And my job is about 1/100000000th as dangerous and grueling as a pro fighter.
     
  7. rr94

    rr94 Belt Holder Full Member

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    get your money, save and invest your money, have a retirement plan to secure your family and yourself for the years after fighting. Then build your legacy. A few money fights will contribute to your legacy, build financial backing for you generate more money, recieve more network exposure, and as you BUILD your legacy after securing your future you can take on the best of the best to truly challenge yourself knowing your future and family is secure.

    It's easy to say "legacy, i want to be great". Everyone does, and not nearly everyone makes it. It's easy to say I'd rather die poor but happy with my accomplishments, than rich and not happy...but in the end when you're career is cut short by a blood clot and you had no money because you jumped up in competition too early and never collected a big payday, and can't pay your medical bills or get a real job...trust me you'll have regrets.

    I'd rather use my brain to secure myself financially (it is a career, it's 2007 not 1937) and do my best against the best before my career was over. Whatever i accomplished win or lose i tried against the best and kept my loved ones secure.
     
  8. Motor City Sam

    Motor City Sam Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well said, EB. It's called "prize-fighting" for a reason.
     
  9. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think it evolves throughout your career. Starting out you aren't necessarily thinking legacy, because you need money to put the bread on the table. Once you're established and make some big paydays you have the luxury of worrying about legacy. I would build my bank so that no one in my family would have to work for money again, then I would continue with legacy fights (which obviously would entail more money). In the end, legacy as a father or family-man (though I don't have any kids now) would be more important to me than legacy as a boxer. It has to be, otherwise you're a worthless person. The thing is that winning and money go hand-in-hand, so if you keep winning you'll get the money and the legacy. The big fights build both.
     
  10. IcanzIIravor

    IcanzIIravor Member Full Member

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    Agreed. I'd try a combination of legacy and money, but if forced to choose one I'd pick money every time. If someone picks legacy over money then they aren't thinking straight. At your job are you thinking I just want to be remembered that I did a great job or are you trying to get paid as much as possible?
     
  11. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Anyone who is a full time pro boxer and is not doing it predominantly for the money is either a liar or mad. A sport that is this dangerous has to be driven by capitalism.
     
  12. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    The answer is money. You will only make big money if you fight the fights that people want to see. By fighting fights that people want to see, you'll make more money, attract more fans, will be remembered longer, and will be thought of more highly in retirement. Simply fighting the best fighters out there is not neccessarily a smart move. Doing so could result in bad stylistic matchups that produce boring fights. Not only this, but you're greatly improving your chances of losing.

    The way the sport is setup, losing too many fights and/or fighting too many ugly fights will hurt your marketablity and earning potential. You expose yourself to ending up broke and without much of a legacy. If you go for the big money fights, you not only will fatten your wallet, but you will be involved in entertaining fights, and fans will remember you longer. Look at Pac. There are better fighters at 130 than MAB. However, MAB has the biggest name and results in the biggest paycheck. This fight will look good on his resume. Guzman is better than MAB at this point, but does not bring much in the way of name recognition and money. Fighting Guzman would expose Pac to a higher chance of losing than would fighting MAB, and doesn't offer a higher reward.
     
  13. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    I have to be honest, you have to have money to survive so i would have to have money but I also would want a great legacy and would want to make the best fights happen.
     
  14. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Once I die I can't enjoy ****. I won't benefit one bit by ****ers saying my name 100 year after I am dead so I would go for money that I can enjoy while I am alive.
     
  15. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What is the low end of the pay scale for an elite level fighter in the lower weight classes?

    BTW, I don't disagree with what anyone is saying, but I do feel that if you go looking for ONLY money, then you cannot be upset with where your legacy falls. And as a fan of a fighter like this, you cannot defend, at least not adequately, that fighters position in a rankings system, especially if they consistanly take money over legacy. If they are fighting for both money and legacy, your position is stronger.

    BTW, I accidently picked the top one when I meant to pick the bottom one. But oh well lol.