Legacy's of Benn and Eubanks ...

Yup, pity they were all 2nd and 3rd tier fighters. And come on, name one top-class performance from Eubank apart from the Benn one! It shouldn't be hard, he had over 50 fights after all...

 

So I ask for 5 guys other than RJJ (who I had already said woudl beat any of them) and you list as your second guy....RJJ.:roll:

Benns prime IMO was 1990-1993.

So Nunn was better than Benn? Nunn who struggled to a split decision over Barkley, and in his very next fight Barkley was lit up by Benn in one round.
Nunn who laboured in several of his big fights...how was he better than Benn?

Hopkins was not even fighting at World Championship level when Benn was in his hey day.
McCullum there is an argument for.

I have seen **** all of Kalambay so I can't comment.

 

Kalambay is a seriously underrated fighter. He was top flight and just the sort of fighter Benn would have trouble with. I'd pick Watson and Eubank to handle Kalambay better than Benn.

 

Nigel Benn beat up Arran Barkley worst than James Toney.

 

Strike, you should know better than to trust 1 round stoppages as a reliable guide to how good a fighter is - they mean very little because at least 8 times out of 10 that result would not be replicated and it says nothing about who is actually better. And anyway, Benn could have very easily been the one stopped in that fight. If you've seen the fight, they both went straight for each other from the very beginning and Benn with his extra one-punch power was the one standing. In short, it tells us **** all.

Apart from that, you do have a point about Nunn though - he often didn't look great and his biggest wins were against fighters past their prime. I just fear that if Benn couldn't get to Nunn early then someone who struggled with Nicky Piper (who is similar Nunn stylewise but not as good) would be in trouble. Benn could be outboxed. Nunn was a boxer.

 

So?

 

Agreed to a point, but I just cannot see how anything Nunn did puts him above Benn.
Beating up an old, shot Curry is hardly impressive and he would just switch off for rounds and become horribly sloppy.

 

Eubank will probably be best known for putting the WBO in the spotlight.

Wanker.

In all seriousness - Benn would have had a chance against any of the elite Americans, including a puncher's one over RJJ, who could be considered chinny.

Eubank would also - he would give guys some thinking to do.

 

They didn't fight more Americans because they didn't need to. Between them 3, Collins, and a load of other decent enough UK fighters of the time they had a hell of a lucrative and competitive set-up.

No disrespect, and it's aimed at others more than you, but you can't question these guys because they didn't fight Americans, any more than you can question the American fighters for not fighting the British.

It cuts both ways.

Benn did more in terms of fighting foreign oppo and fighting on foreign soil than these 'elite' American fighters did...

 

Eubank admits fully to wanting to make as much money for minimum risk. The WBO was obviously the perfect vehicle fo him to do this. I think it only gave the belt recognition in the sense that people knew it existed. That Jonathon Ross interview when Toney said "the WBO? We don't even count that".

 

Dissing the WBO was a funny moment - but later fighting and defending on behalf of the WBU showed Toney up IMO.

Benn vs Toney would be good - Banger vs Iron Chin

 

I find it strange that Eubank admitted all through the prime of his career that he disliked/hated boxing & was only doing it for the money. He wanted to minimize the risk to himself. So he fights Nigel Benn twice, Steve Collins, then he drops half a stone with a week to go to fight a non-stop puncher like Calzaghe and two absolutely brutal fights against Carl Thompson at a weight he should be nowhere near. Quite a character.

Didn't Toney also claim that the WBC stood for "We Be Crooks"?

 

Toney is a fat drug cheat. Who gives a **** what he thinks or says. Eubank was a far better fighter and a far better man.

 

That's Eubank for you

A contrary character if ever there was one

 

Toney was proudly sporting his NABO heavyweight title in a recent interview I saw, so I wouldn't take that fat mug too seriously :good

The WBO is gaining popularity by the minute.