Legend Roberto Duran has an important message for Manny Pacquiao..

Chavez and Pacman are two great fighters. Duran never knocked out a great fighter.

 

Duran's resume is superb IMO. It doesn't have the star power of a resume like Leonard's, but this is because he wasn't in a division with star names until Duran was way above his best weight and beyond his own fighting prime. He still has outstanding dominance, longevity and quality on his ledger.


He dominated one of the traditional eight weight classes for the best part of a decade cleaning out the best fighters it had to offer (Buchanan, deJesus x2, Kobayashi, Lampkin, Viruet, Fernandez, etc), he beat stellar competition at welterweight (Leonard, Palomino), he scored some excellent wins way above his best weight and after his prime had been and gone (Cuevas, Moore), he won the middleweight title 17 years after first winning the lightweight title, outfighting a much, much larger man at the age of 37 (Barkley), and outwith this managed to score some meaningful wins and turn in some solid losing performances as well (Marcel, Hagler, Castro).


In terms of cold hard achievement, he's up there with the best in history, and I truly believe his win over Ray Leonard is as good as any win ever achieved by any other fighter in all of boxing history. :bbb

 

What great fighter did Pernell Whitaker ever knock out? You telling me Sweet Pea isn't an elite ATG? :think

And Duran has stoppages against Marcel, Cuevas and deJesus on his record, Buchanan as well I suppose.

Your argument is ****.

 

Duran beat the best fighter he ever fought (prime Leonard).

Hearns got knocked out by the two best fighters he ever fought (prime Leonard & reigning Hagler).

How does that fit into your thinking? :think

 

I think you said it. Prime Leonard opposed to not prime when Duran fought him in June of 1980 in Ray's second title defense. Hearns fought a much better Leonard in 1981 and Duran fought a green Leonard. Ray fought Duran's fight in June of 1980 and still couldn't knock him out fighting his fight. Then in the rematch Duran quits right as Ray starts to land on his chin and body. That speaks for itself. And Duran was outclassed by Benitez and Hearns outboxed Benitez the same year for that title and Hearns destroyed Duran easily.

 

What do we know so far?


Duran ***** slaps the current welterweights including the Pussyweather.

That is the what is good with fantasy match-ups!!!! No one can prove you wrong.

 

Biggest name there was Pipino Cuevas who was 3 years past his title fights and was washed up. Cuevas never won a title at 154 yet Duran did. And my comment was about Duran stopping Chavez and Pacman so I responded he never stopped a great fighter but somehow he would stop those 2 guys.

 

i like duran and am a ******* too.

but to say that pac has no chance against duran is simply being too simplistic.

sizewise, duran would be like a full size cotto, and with power also.

 

Yeh some ***** ready & waiting to film ambushes Roberto in an airport & sez everyone reckens manny would wipe the floor with you, what your take on that Mr Duran.atsch

It's a wonder roberto never chinned him, he's 60 now & a proud old warrior who's in the top 5 of ATG's & who bound too respond in that way or worse. Total **** question to put too an old man who was the ruling baddest tyrannosaur of his era, quite pathetic really that some creep has to make a video of this:-(

I've flown over from the UK 3 times now to watch manny fight as i'am proberbly down as a full-on ******* & i've got my $1200 ticket for the JMM war, Section 19, Row J, Seat 11:happy But i draw the line here, no way does the modern day marvel survive Duran if they met at any weight.

It's about time some of the younger posters on here watched a few of Durans disciplined phychotic assualts at 135 & SRL getting hounded & hammered all over the ring into the ropes in montreal at 147 & this is prime Leonard we're talking about:yep

Durans body attack would cut poor manny in half:deal

I'd be suprised if it lasted 6 at 135 or 147, it's Duran that dictats how this fight pans out & not Manny. It would be lively & great to watch, but Duran has all the tools & some. There's no reprieve, no escape & no chance that manny don't get stretchered out of the ring. Manny would relish the combat & that would only bring about his absolute certain destruction sooner rather than later at the hands of the only one & true "High Priest of Violence":deal

 

Duran is now probably a drunkard who doesnt know what is saying, he looks like homeless

 

What the hell does he mean he ain't no fish?

 

Fish is poker-slang for a very bad player as far as I know.
Maybe No Mas has some gambling problems?

 

Hearns really destroyed Duran's brain cells. If today's Duran lasted. Round with PAC that would be something.

Prime Duran would beat PAC.

 

SRL was much like Roy Jones in that he was in his prime by the time he won a world title. Jones circa 1993 (Malinga & Hopkins) and Leonard circa 1980 (Benitez & Duran) were as good at that point as they ever were. Neither man changed or developed really, both were superb all-round fighters by the time they rose to title prominence, and stayed at that level for many years after. To suggest that the Leonard of 1981 was a markedly different fighter to the Leonard of 1980 is silly. Both Duran and Hearns fought a prime Leonard, Duran beat him while Hearns got stopped by him.

Your point about "Duran couldn't even knock out Leonard" is insane. Who ever knocked out Leonard before he was borderline shot?! No-one. Not Hearns, not Hagler, not Benitez, not Duran, not Lalonde, no-one.

Duran (natural 135) lost to Benitez and Hearns at 154. Hearns was probably at his absolute best at 154. Duran obviously wasn't even close to it, he was far, far from it in fact.

I don't know why I even engage you on this subject, on this one particular topic you are well-known as an irrational troll and hater, as I still remember vividly the way you disappeared and refused to answer salient points about this issue despite me posting numerous times to get to defend your nonsensical p-o-v, it was on the Classic not long ago and I can easily bump the thread if you deny this.

 

"Biggest name" was Cuevas, but name recognition is not the only important factor in boxing. Marcel and deJesus were both excellent fighters, as was Buchanan.

For what it's worth, I also don't see Duran ever stopping Chavez at 135. He'd stop him at 147 though, for sure. And I think Duran has a fair chance of stopping Manny at either weight. Manny would take too much leather on the inside as the rounds would go by, stylistically he wouldn't handle this fight well. A merciful ref would probably step in at one point.