Legend Roberto Duran has an important message for Manny Pacquiao..

Anyone that brings up the Hearns loss as a way to show that Duran isn't great, is pathetic, Tommy Hearns is the greatest 154 pounder in history and a knock you dead puncher,

Do any of you honestly think Pacman could of done any better ?

 

You people have a comprehension problem. KnuckleUp99 as well made the same stupid assumption as you. I never implied what I agreed with, you guys just decided to fill in the blanks because you're an idiot.

I was agreeing that Mayweather is no fish, and that Pacquiao should look out. If you honestly believe that I was agreeing that Duran could beat Pacquiao TODAY, you are a moron. In fact, if you think anybody agreed with that, you are a moron. In short, you are a moron.

 

I'm not saying they were THE factor either, just that it's plain common sense that the fights would've been more even if SRL and Benitez didn't have the range of considerable advantages over Duran that they had. It's much easier to dance and box against someone if you have a significantly longer reach and longer legs, is just one example.

The point being that Pacquiao would not even have these advantages over Duran in a primeforprime h2h that other fighters that beat Duran did have, in addition to not having the stylistic edge over handsofstone.

 

I wasn't saying that the losses by Pac and Duran to the fighters mentioned were exactly the same thing. I'm saying that it was early on in their careers and both guys happened to lose to guys who were half decent fighters.

Dejesus was pretty close to retirement when he fought Duran the 3rd time and had been fighting nobodies. They shouldn;t have even been in the ring together at that point.

 

No offense, you seem to know what you're talking about, I just don't share your opinion.

Duran beat plenty of guys who had physical advantages over him. Most everyone he beat over 135 pounds in fact. I suppose we're saying almost the same thing, I just think the styles were the difference.

 

I can't believe there are Pacquiao fans who believe he would beat Duran at 135. Have these people even seen Duran fight at 135? The guy was an absolute monster. It seems many have this inaccurate perception that Duran wasn't good at slipping punches and a hell of a boxer. He was more than just a come forward brawler, that is for damn sure.

If you also think Manny Pacquiao could beat SRL at 147 pounds like Duran did, I say you're on drugs.

 

Pac would get busted up at 135. At 147, specifically after No Mas, I'd actually favor Pac to win. Floyd too.

 

but....but...You're comparing the KO's between a teenage Pac and a prime Duran. atsch

 

you think that Duran was in his prime against Tommy Hearns atsch

 

Old.

 

well Duran never knocked out a great fighter, and beat one great in his career, who came back and beat him easily two times. He was a fighting machine when he had guys in front of him who fought his fight and who he was better than like his lightweight competition. The level he fought when he moved up was altogether a different level. Speed was his achilles as Leonard,Hearns and Benitez all showed. It would be up to Manny to fight his fight and not stand in front of Duran.

 

small stat difference, but Duran was 5-7 1/2 almost 5-8 and he had a 67 inch reach.

 

I'm just trying to be fair here. The dude was comparing fights between freshmen and seniors.

 

Both Boxrec and Wikipedia disagree with you. He was 5ft 7in and had a 66in reach.

 

- Duran beat three great fighters as I see it: Leonard, Buchanan and Marcel.

- Duran didn't only move up a level in standard, he moved up to fight a higher standard of fighter at the same time as he moved up considerably in weight, and was getting older. This obvious fact must be remembered whenever Duran's performances against top opposition is being discussed. He wasn't fighting top guys his own size, he was fighting top guys who were bigger, and he wasn't fighting top guys at his peak, but he was fighting them at or close to their own fighting peaks.

- Speed wasn't Duran's Achilles at lightweight, Duran was rapid at light. You continually mistake the performances of an overweight thirtysomething against younger, bigger men to be indicative of his prime abilities, which they obviously weren't.

- It wouldn't be up to Manny AT ALL. The decision would be taken out of his hands completely by the marauding, mauling, rampant, rampaging beast that was an absolute peak Duran - he would dictate where and how the fight went, not Manny.