Legendary Champs rarely train?

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  1. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    That quote from another thread has me thinking.:huh
     
  2. Kevin_Wright

    Kevin_Wright King of Awesomeland Full Member

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    IDK. I just kind of figured that trainers were "good boxers" minus some of the athleticism you see in guys like Jones, Ali, Maywether, Pac etc.

    In other words (in case I lost you), guys who know the game but don't play it as well as some? Maybe IDK. You see what I mean.
     
  3. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Klitschkos never get out of shape, they train hard. Pac trains hard. Mosely trains hard and many others.
     
  4. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    maybe they just dont want to share their secrets:yep
     
  5. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    It depends on the boxer. I can be out of the gym for a week(Not gone since week before last because I've been busy) but still have great reflexes and speed. I do shadowbox for a little but my stance has come naturally now.
     
  6. Above Deck

    Above Deck Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Look what happened to tyson when he stopped training
    as hard as he was..

    Ive heard Ali was a very hard worker.

    Mayweather and Pac are known for pushing themselves to
    the limits in the gym and setting the bar very high work wise.

    To be the best, you train the hardest.
     
  7. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Shitty thread title. Goes to show not many people read the actual posts.

    I meant why is it that legendary champions rarely ever train fighters? I can name Frazier and Whitaker off the top of my head.
     
  8. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Are people not even bothering to read the thread?
     
  9. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Crap I messed up. Just because a fighter is a great fighter doesn't mean they're a great trainer. Teaching and learning are two different things though they can combine at times. Your title misled me plus I was anxious to post.
     
  10. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    Buddy McGirt, of course, depending on where you draw the line for "legendary". I'd say John David Jackson wasn't quite legendary.

    Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.
     
  11. flyboi

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    Nope! u pretty much have to be an average figher, to be a great trainer. Talented boxers will never really be taught! (roy jones, sugar ray, mayweather sr.) its the average fighters that learn (freddy roach, mayweather sr, and roger) those are the fighters at the time that are eager to learn an cant rely on talent to get them past a fight! have u ever seen a great fighter train? NOPE! they aint been taught ****! its the same in all sports! jordan great, he cant teach his son ****, he's a bum, jelly bean bryant, average, taught his son, he will be an all time great (kobe) average athletes are eager to learn maybe because envious to the great ones, and the naturally talented dont have to do much but rely on their natural ability!http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/images/smilies/boxing998.gif
     
  12. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    lol. you have to admit, the title was kinda misleading:hey
     
  13. KOTF

    KOTF Bingooo Full Member

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    Buddy McGirt was a pretty good fighter, and a pretty good trainer, provided that he doesn't tell you to "Get some water, champ"
     
  14. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Does he say champ? I always picture him saying "Drink some water baby".
     
  15. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This'll give you some idea why ATG's don't make great trainers:

    After Willie Pep hungÂ’em up, he tried his hand at training.

    I was at the 5th St. Gym in Miami. Willie was in the corner of a big, beefy heavyweight.

    He was screaming at the heavy from the ring apron, getting redder and redder in the face. This wasn't stand-up comic Willie: This was more Vince Lombardi-Bobby Knight.

    When the round ended, Pep went berserk -- attacked his fighter, screamed at him, punched him, whipped him with his pork-pie hat, kicked him in the shins; he had to be dragged off by three cornermen.

    Pep just couldn't get it in his head that what he did as natural as breathing, nobody else could.