IDK. I just kind of figured that trainers were "good boxers" minus some of the athleticism you see in guys like Jones, Ali, Maywether, Pac etc. In other words (in case I lost you), guys who know the game but don't play it as well as some? Maybe IDK. You see what I mean.
Klitschkos never get out of shape, they train hard. Pac trains hard. Mosely trains hard and many others.
It depends on the boxer. I can be out of the gym for a week(Not gone since week before last because I've been busy) but still have great reflexes and speed. I do shadowbox for a little but my stance has come naturally now.
Look what happened to tyson when he stopped training as hard as he was.. Ive heard Ali was a very hard worker. Mayweather and Pac are known for pushing themselves to the limits in the gym and setting the bar very high work wise. To be the best, you train the hardest.
Shitty thread title. Goes to show not many people read the actual posts. I meant why is it that legendary champions rarely ever train fighters? I can name Frazier and Whitaker off the top of my head.
Crap I messed up. Just because a fighter is a great fighter doesn't mean they're a great trainer. Teaching and learning are two different things though they can combine at times. Your title misled me plus I was anxious to post.
Buddy McGirt, of course, depending on where you draw the line for "legendary". I'd say John David Jackson wasn't quite legendary. Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.
Nope! u pretty much have to be an average figher, to be a great trainer. Talented boxers will never really be taught! (roy jones, sugar ray, mayweather sr.) its the average fighters that learn (freddy roach, mayweather sr, and roger) those are the fighters at the time that are eager to learn an cant rely on talent to get them past a fight! have u ever seen a great fighter train? NOPE! they aint been taught ****! its the same in all sports! jordan great, he cant teach his son ****, he's a bum, jelly bean bryant, average, taught his son, he will be an all time great (kobe) average athletes are eager to learn maybe because envious to the great ones, and the naturally talented dont have to do much but rely on their natural ability!http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/images/smilies/boxing998.gif
Buddy McGirt was a pretty good fighter, and a pretty good trainer, provided that he doesn't tell you to "Get some water, champ"
This'll give you some idea why ATG's don't make great trainers: After Willie Pep hungÂ’em up, he tried his hand at training. I was at the 5th St. Gym in Miami. Willie was in the corner of a big, beefy heavyweight. He was screaming at the heavy from the ring apron, getting redder and redder in the face. This wasn't stand-up comic Willie: This was more Vince Lombardi-Bobby Knight. When the round ended, Pep went berserk -- attacked his fighter, screamed at him, punched him, whipped him with his pork-pie hat, kicked him in the shins; he had to be dragged off by three cornermen. Pep just couldn't get it in his head that what he did as natural as breathing, nobody else could.