Legendary Champs rarely train?

Perhaps it's that the really top fighters feel that they've participated-in or gotten (money, adulation, experience, punishment) enough from the game that they don't want to participate in it too heavily once they've retired.

Whereas it's the guys who feel that they didn't do / get / partake enough in the ring that still have the hunger to be connected to the sport and who still feel they have something to offer / prove.

Just one theory.

The other thing is that the legendary fighters (and this is more the modern era than older ones) often retire from the game with so much cash that they can use that as feedstock for other business ventures (property, investments, retail chains etc), whereas the guys that didn't really succeed (in the 'hit the jackpot' sense) tend to keep working in boxing because that's really all they know, so have to make a living from it.

 

I think it is instinct versus skill. Guys like Foreman, Tyson, RJJ, and Zab Judah are fighters by nature. I don't think they could "teach" guys past the basics because they were blessed with so much. They were molded, but I don't think they could understand the average guy's shortcomings.

Guys like FMJ, Joe Calzaghe, B-Hop, The Klits, Ali, etc... probably could train guys. Their effectiveness is based in the science of boxing not just natural gifts. I really feel those guys were just athletic guys that were more motivated than the average man.

 

This is why you should comment on the general forum more often. :thumbsup

 

It'd be interesting to see some legendary boxers try their hand at training, but we already saw that with Frazier. As great as it would be to see someone like Ali or Jones Jr. in someone's corner, for example, I just think they'd be bad it based on how much they relied on skills that no one has ever really been able to replicate.

That said, I think a 'complete' boxer who has great natural talents but also very sound fundamentals, like say a Larry Holmes or a Joe Louis, I'd have liked to see them become trainers.

 

Rocky Balboa produced a world champion as a trainer.

 

JG, I love reading all of your posts. Please spend more time on the General Forum. We need non-idiots badly.

 

You will find this in most sports ,the guy who really had to work hard to gain the skills of the sport are the best coaches.The guy with naturally ability manages to train hard on his condition without having to practice his skill over and over.

 

man that is an hilarious mental image , Pep losing his **** and whipping his fighter with his hat ! Nice

 

This pretty much sums it up. Not just in boxing but in other discipline as well.
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Some top fighters are just very good at following instructions from their trainers but can not come up with the statergy themselves.

 

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well they're too dumb from all the punches they took.. most great boxers are not too bright upstairs to be honest.. maybe that's why.. besides training doesnt pay much unless you're training a world champion

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