Legendary Salvador Sanchez VS Living legend Juan Manuel Marquez

Since he only fought 2 elites at that weight, its hard to say. He didnt stop JMM because JMM outboxed him as he was completely telegraphing his straight left, Sanchez knew how to get his licks in from all angles. So thats not so much more about power.

 

I think Ricardo Lopez retired undefeated because he was fighting in boxing's no mans land. With his skill level, he should have been challenging himself at Super Flyweight and beyond. The fact is, he didn't, and although his technical ability has never been questioned, and obviously his consistency, I don't rate him as high as a lot of posters. I put more stock in resume than anything else.

What is your top 10?

 

Your answer is zero! :good

Marco would have seen the final bell, in my estimation, but his corner did the right thing.

 

Lopez is a difficult call because of his lack of opposition, but his dominance, consistency, and the extreme skill level he showed make up for most of it. I agree though, he gets more overrated than underrated because of his technical skills, which were never even proven at elite level. Still, it can't be denied he posessed them, and was an excellent fighter.

On the flip side, even though both Morales and Barrera fought far better opposition, neither showed anywhere near the dominance or consistency shown by Lopez (though that's to be expected), and I believe him to have been a more skilled technician than either at his best.

I've been putting less stock in resume lately, but with a guy like Lopez, who was far less proven against world class opposition, it does need to be taken into consideration. Not sure what my definitive top 10 would be. Am off now, but will be back later to discuss things.

 

Marquez was better than Sanchez from a technical standpoint. Certainly more textbook. Sanchez's style and technique was solid as well, although slightly more innovative. I'd say that Sanchez was probably prone to being more elasticated and free technically. However, this doesn't mean that Marquez was greater or a more effective boxer simply because he was fundamentally sounder.

 

But how does Marquez take Sanchez's straight right hand?

 

Does Sanchez have serious power? I would say 'very good' power. Probably enough to trouble Marquez anyway. But it wouldn't be about power alone. It has to do with Sanchez's style, his strengths, etc, combined the amount of power he possessed. IMO, Marquez has showed a decent amount of recovery powers to convince me that he'd be able to stand up to Sanchez's punches or at least rise after being knocked down. And he's got the tools to fire back and keep Sanchez 'honest'.

I don't think many featherweights in history have an easy time with Marquez. I think he'd beat Hamed, due to the holes in Hamed's defense and the style aspect. Saddler would probably KO Marquez, although I see a competitive fight for as long as it lasts. Pep would probably outbox him to win a decision but not a dominating shut-out.

 

Considering the quality of opposition that Sanchez has stopped at 126lb, he should be considered a harder hitter than Manny Pacquiao.

 

Thats a tough one. Sanchez stopped Lopez twice down the stretch, Gomez inside 8 rounds, and Nelson in the last round. The rest of his wins were all achieved over the distance. This shows he had good power. But when looking at his entire reign at featherweight in title defenses against Laporte, Ford, Cowdell, etc, he couldn't get them out of there. The true power of fighters needs to be studied more in-depth IMO. Sanchez wasn't a particularly aggressive fighter, hence the reason he never stopped as many as he did. But one thing is for certain, he wasn't a lethal puncher.

 

So we have established that against top tier opposition, Sanchez performs at his best and more times than not, gets the stoppage.

Would you consider Juan Manuel Marquez top tier opposition?

 

you all are still arguing about this ****... Sanchez ko Marquez close thread...

 

Robbi has yet to concede that Marquez loses this fantasy match-up.

 

Nelson wasn't top class at the time, although with hindsight it tells us he was handy after only 15 fights. The high class of the opposition doesn't necassarily mean they had better chins than an average contenders. Not all the time anyway. Because Gomez was a higher class of fighter than the other challenger's who went the distance with Sanchez, does this alone somehow mean he had a better chin?

Lewis is higher class than Chuvalo H2H and in terms of greatness, but his chin wasn't better.

 

I would pick Sanchez via points or late stoppage. Because I wasn't sticking my head out and calling a winner it never meant I was saying Marquez wins.

 

I agree. That is all. :good