Legends in Today's Era

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  1. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    I meant heavyweights. Mayweather and Pacman are great, I said that earlier

    Also nice try, not quoting the rest of what I sent so that you didn't have to address it. My points still stand
     
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  2. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In post #10 you say:"Mayweather and Pacquaio are ATG tier imo, and Lomachenko has potential. but besides that yes, we're in a weak era". Sounds to me, like you're talking about boxing in general.

    So is your position, that this era is fine - except for the heavyweights, who are ****?
     
  3. McGrain

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    Joe was 205lbs for the first Ali fight. So he'd slide those pounds right off and destroy the cruiserweight division. Which means Usyk-Frazier would have been wonderful. UD for Joe though.
     
  4. Nighttrain

    Nighttrain 'BOUT IT 'BOUT IT Full Member

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    Joe said that his ring weight was less than 200 pounds that night.
     
  5. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You mean: Top tier heavyweights being fat and slow, guys like deontay who have no form whatsoever, guys getting busted with PEDs all the ****ing time.

    I don't care how fat or how uncoordinated the heavyweights are - if they are the best, they are the best!

    About the PEDs… I couldn't care less!
     
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  6. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Your right in that Frazier would have trouble. Most of Joe`s fights were tough bouts because he had to work his way inside. He was relentless. One tactic that Im sure Eddie Futch would have Frazier use would be consistant bodypunching. It`s one thing to tape your right glove against your face for a few rounds but when your opponent is digging lefthooks into your body it starts to drop. That along with constant pressure fighting 3 minutes per round may pay dividends for Joe Frazier or maybe not. It would be a tough go.
     
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  7. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Let's just assume that Joe Frazier only wants to fight heavyweights

    Imo Frazier could knock Usyk out if he lands that monster of a left hook
     
  8. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Like I said, you set the tone very clearly in the opening post.

    This won't be a debate worth remembering.
     
  9. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    Just state your opinion man, you think Marciano and Dempsey get bodied?

    Personally I think Dempsey and Marciano would beat guys like Frazier and Liston so I'm surprised you didn't mention them
     
  10. McGrain

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    He would probably suffer a couple of shock knockouts at the hands of inferior fighters.
     
  11. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    The great Joe Frazier... The man who had war with Ali three times, the man who got up against George Foreman so many times when he was past his prime, then did the unthinkable and rematched him? The man with one of the most devasting lefts? Incredible stamina? The heart of ten men?

    You think he suffers flash knockouts against guys like Chrisora, Price and Bellew?
     
  12. McGrain

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    no
     
  13. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    If they're foolish enough to fight at HW then yes. Their chances improve at CW and LHW though.
     
  14. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    Why though....

    Dempsey has fought many men larger than the average heavyweight today...
     
  15. It's Ovah

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    Size and skill.