Legitimate champion or Oaf?

Good grief. I think I just had a déjà vu experience (again).

 

Will you name the"whole myriad of wins over world class fighters" you say Carnera had please?
Specifically which ones were world class?

 

You know it's going to boil down to Walter Neusel, don't you?

 

I produced a thread where I illustrated his results against everybody who was ranked while he was in the rankings.
Those results would leave you with a hell of a lot to explain away, even without the Sharkey fight.

 

It's quite evident that, there are various interpretations of "this era". Especially, those which utterly discount primary sources, like yours.

 

He fought Neusel in1935,the German hadn't been ranked for 2 years.
I'm just curious as to whom these myriad of world class opponents
he beat would be?
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mcvey, don't deal in stories, I produce facts that can be verified, facts that prove Johnson signed to fight Langford ,McVey and Jeannette.In response you produced nothing to challenge that, you never do.Just vague accusations.

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If you want to debate the issue then make a thread on it, I'll gladly produce dates,locations ,and promoters,you will produce nothing.

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If you don't thi
nk the white public wanted Johnson to defend against white challengers so there was a chance a white man might regain the heavyweight title ,then there is no way you can be reached mentally.

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Why do you think the White Hope Era started in the first place?

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The three leading promoters Coffroth,Curley ,and Rickard all stated that two black men don't draw flies at the box office.

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Jeannette and McVey fought 49rounds for a total purse of $6000 shared between them

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. Your ignorance of this time in boxing history is encapsulated by your remark below
"not one of the big three were available on that specific day, please. "

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Jeannette and Langford certainly weren't ,they were fighting each other the next day! McVey was in Australia preparing for his fight with Colin Bell 8 days later! lol!

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Jeannette and Langford certainly weren't ,they were fighting each other the next day! McVey was in Australia preparing for his fight with Colin Bell 8 days later! lol!

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Oh my word do you mug yourself when you post here!! You couldn't make this sh*t up!

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I've got nothing to explain away, nothing to even comment on ,until you produce this world class myriad

 

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No more threads from me but I'll be happy to debate this subject and back up my claims with documented proof should you wish to make one,till then I suggest we confine the posts to the subject matter of the thread.

 

Oh, no. You are quite mistaken.

I do believe my own eyes, as well as incorporate what I read.

 

Fact. Neusel was unranked,and had not been ranked for 2 years.
Fact. Uzcudun was unranked and had not been ranked for 5 years.

Fact. Neither would ever be ranked again.
We are now looking for the rest of this myriad of world class fighters that Carnera beat .

Some names would be appreciated.
Okay ,I'll provide them.
George Godfrey dubious fight believed to be a fix
Fact. Godfrey was unranked
Victor Campolo 2 fights
FACT. Campolo was unranked in both fights.
Loughran was ranked ,and out weighed by 84lbs!
Young Stribling. Both fights believed to be fixes.
King Levinsky was ranked ,I don't know why, because he had won just one of his last 6 fights and that victory was over a nobody.

Anyone I've left out?

 

If you can take everybody, repeat everybody, who has been in the end of year rankings over a fighter’s career, and he has fought/beaten most of them:

Doesn’t that count for something?

If it doesn’t, then surely Riddick Bowe would have aced such a test!