Legitimate LW champ Nate Campbell: Casa is a faux liner/ring champ

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  1. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    "He's not the linear champion and I'm going to explain to you why. Diego Corrales was the linear champion. When he lost the linear title, how did he lose it? He lost it on the scales. Therefore the championship became vacant. When Joel Casamayor beat Diego Corrales, he won a vacant title by beating Diego Corrales, who was over the weight and lost the title on the scales. If you're going to go by the rules, Casamayor shouldn't be considered the linear champion because he never beat the linear champion at 135, so he is not the linear champion."

    "Why would he be the linear champion when he beat a guy who came in overweight?"


    "Joel Casamayor didn't win a fight against another lightweight to win the title so how can he be the linear champion. He beats Diego and he doesn't fight again until he loses to Santa Cruz and now he's trying to cheat the fans by giving them a fight other than the one they want to see most, which is obviously me and him fighting. If it wasn't for the fact that he had the Golden Boy belt, because that's all that the ring belt is. I'll never be fighter of the year as long as Golden Boy owns Ring Magazine. I'll never be fighter of the year. With all those writers he has over there consistantly shooting arrows at me, and consistantly building up Juan Diaz. It's a beautiful thing when you have a guy that can get beat so easily."
     
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  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    he makes a solid case.
     
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  3. tragicliston

    tragicliston Active Member Full Member

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    Give me a break. Does anybody buy this?
     
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  4. ad82

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    I heard Nate saying that, was very funny!
    He's trying to make excuses for why he should be considered THE champ.
    Forget about the ring. Cassamayor is the lineal champ, that's beyond despute.
    If the champion comes in over weight then the title is still available for the challenger as long as they make weight.

    There's only 1 way to settle who the best LW is and that's in the ring. But Joel is the Linear champ.
     
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  5. PH|LLA

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    of course people buy it. Campbell has established himself as the number1 contender to Casa's ring title and has called him out publicly, and Casa has come out and said he doesn't need to fight Campbell? what kind of bull**** is that? Now Campbell is pointing out that Casa actually won his LW title against someone who wasn't even a LW on fight night. See in it what you will but if Casa wants credibility then he should step up and fight the guy who has 3 of the 4 belts.

    Fight Campbell mother****er!
     
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  6. ad82

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    That may be so..but the linear champ is the man who beat the man who beat them...and that is Cassamyor. He had a great victory and may be a favourite over Joel but that's not the point. You win the title in the ring and Joel hasn't lost it in the ring yet.
     
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  7. Motor City Sam

    Motor City Sam Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nate and Casa have the same motivation: They are at the end of their careers and want the biggest money fights possible. Both guys are making comments to support their positions, and I don't blame them for that. On one hand, Campbell has three belts and would seem to be the most logical challenger to Casa's ring belt. On the other hand, Casa already beat him. You can make a logical case to support either argument if you look at it objectively.
     
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  8. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    He sure does. Now Max Kellerman and the Ring are trying to convince people that Casa is the "real" LW champ. This of course is completely bogus. To make matters worse, Casa is now going to participate in the Golden Boy LW tournament, witht he Golden Boy belt(aka Ring Belt) up for grabs.

    Casa will fight Diaz(just got beat down by Campbell) and Katsidis(just got knocked out, went life and death with Amonsat, struggled with Earl Graham) will fight Jesus Chavez(when was the last time he had a relevant win?). The winners will fight eachother. It's also fair to mention that all 4 fighters are promoted by Golden Boy.

    I guess all the fans are supposed to believe that the winner of this farce of a tournament is the "real" champ LW. Meanwhile, there's a chance that Nate Campbell will face the winner of Pac/Diaz later this year. The winner of that fight would have all 4 major belts. Of course, if we listen to Max Kellerman and the Ring, then this fighter would just be a titlest and would be inferior to the Golden Boy champ.
     
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  9. tragicliston

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    You said it there yourself-number one contender. Do you think Campbell would be saying any of this if he and Casa were going to fight? Of course not. Hey, I think Casa should fight Nate too (and give Santa Cruz a rematch while he's at it) but he's the lineal champ and that's a pretty much accepted.
     
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  10. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He makes a good point about the weight issue.

    HOWEVER, Casamayor wasn't with Goldenboy the The Ring ranked him as Lineal Champ.
     
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  11. BigReg

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    Yes, and he won his "linear" LW title by beating a guy coming off a knockout loss in a non LW bout.:-( So now, you don't even have to beat LW's to be a LW linear champ.
     
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  12. ad82

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    The Lineal Title is nothing to do with the ring belt! People are getting confused since Nate Cambell is confused.

    Corrales was THE champ at LW..regardless of titles, the lineal title passed to Cassamayor when he beat him. End of story.
     
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  13. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    No one is confusing the two. How can the lineal LW title pass in a non LW fight?
     
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  14. Superheavyweight

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  15. ad82

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    Quite simple, it was a lightwieght title fight. Corrales didn't make weight but Casamayor did. The title was available for Joel to win but not Chico..it's fairly simple stuff and has happened in many title fights where one fighter has failed to make weight.
     
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