Lemieux vs. Tapia - complete mess.

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  1. IntentionalButt

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    Glen screwed up by not riding the count a bit. Too much of a warrior for his own good. Really needed to clear the cobwebs there. Had it continued unimpeded he was going to get himself KTFO.

    Russell Mora waited a beat too long to start the count and was then uneven with it (was a full three or seconds behind when he reached eight; on my count it had been eleven-plus since Tapia hit the deck) and this partially stemmed from another problem, him diving in to acknowledge the down & start his count with no sense of personal space, barging into Lemieux and having to bodily usher him clear of his path. Then he marched Tapia into a corner but stood off a full yard away from him before starting to beckon him forward. The ref is supposed to be positioned right there in front of the fighter to see if they're responsive and grab their wrists for the liveliness check as soon as they get up. Mora is a very bad referee.

    Roach probably should have given Tapia one more chance - Tapia did seem clearer-eyed with each passing second the longer he paced and interacted with Mora, and one desperate game-changing hail Mary bomb could have gotten through in an exchange if Lemieux came in horny for the finish - not like we've never seen Lemieux open to getting countered before. Not his shining moment of judgment in a corner.
     
  2. IntentionalButt

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    Not to take anything away from David; that was a good clean KO win. There are just some unsatisfying loose ends, and each of those men listed above could have done things a little differently to leave it feeling a little neater.
     
  3. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    It sucks big time, since part of the reason I paid for this ****ing thing was the hope of seeing David brutally KO Tapia, even though I like Tapia, Freddie overreacted, sure he was going to be KO'd eventually but at least let him go down one more time. It wasn't that devastating a KD.
     
  4. Farmboxer

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    Lemieux can punch like a mule kicks, glad nobody was seriously hurt................

    I did not buy the PPV fight because I knew Alvarez/Khan would be a mismatch...............Khan is no where near a Middleweight, nor a Jr. Middle weight...............this was for the 160 lb. title and it's time Alvarez finally fights at that weight like Hagler, Monzon and the rest, boxing history is at stake.............
     
  5. IntentionalButt

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    Farmy, nobody is putting that kind of pressure on Canelo. Hagler and Monzon? People are only just barely daring to suggest Golovkin might belong in their company (with a litany of "Ifs" to get there, involving either cleaning house entirely or moving up or down to beat someone in the p4p top few) and he's a much longer tenured MW champ, even if not the "lineal" one.
     
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    Wasn't it the assistant who stopped it and not Roach?
     
  8. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    was a very unsatisfying end to it.

    sure, Glen didn't have much of a chance and probably was on the virge of being rendered unconscious, but they should have given him a chance. I've seen boxers come back from much worse.
    Just look at the Rubio bout.
     
  9. kenneth86

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    roach told him to stop it.
     
  10. Farmboxer

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    Very hard punch, it appeared to me that the fight was stopped too soon..........as Tapia did not look hurt..................not on video that is, Roach was there at ringside, but again, the fight appeared to have been stopped too soon.

    As far as Golovkin is concerned; he is Alvarez' mandatory, WBC gave their word, rules are rules..............mandatory fights should be fought and Golovkin deserves it. 160 is the limit................

    Thanks for the video highlights though, that fight should not have been stopped at that time................sad...........
     
  11. IntentionalButt

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    Roach isn't exactly the most nimble guy these days, so he wasn't first to climb on the apron, but..
     
  12. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    that probably has more to do with his physical condition as his mindset.
     
  13. kenneth86

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    Roach knew his fighter and knew that tapia was going to go from broke and end up getting knocked out worse than Khan. my bigger issue with the fight is how are these fights being made. a knock out artist facing someone that has no chance that is MOVING up in weight.
    and for what. the purpose of the fight seemed to be "make ggg look strong"

    and I'd say the rubio loss is about as relevant now as when pacquaio was koed at the start of his career twice. He proved to be a decent punching bag vs GGG
     
  14. kenneth86

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    I think the poster meant what he said literally. roach wanted to stop the fight but didnt want to get up and run when he is sick.
     
  15. IntentionalButt

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    Yeah. Roach would have issued the order. The guy that jumped up wouldn't have undermined the corner hierarchy to make his own call.