Lemiex and mattysse putting france on the boxing map

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  1. Mexi-Box

    Mexi-Box Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Some of the sh!t you people come up with. Matthysse is South American. He's from Argentina. He's of the same blood as Martinez and Maidana who are both from his native Argentina. I mean Maidana looks like a damn Chinaman, but he's Argentinian.
     
  2. miniq

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    Matthysse lives in the Argentinian mountains eating iguana

    Not in a field eating frogs.
     
  3. Mexi-Box

    Mexi-Box Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    The island of Haiti was like 90% slaves, dude. Rigondeaux represents Cuba, but his last name makes me think his family emigrated from Haiti, which isn't unusual.
     
  4. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Yes, that is what I'm saying. One is Argentinian and the other is Canadian.
     
  5. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Remember that French dude Roy Jones Jr. fought? He went three rounds and then took a knee.
     
  6. Phanekim

    Phanekim Well-Known Member Full Member

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    LOL at OP. this thread is so fail.
     
  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Yeah both countries discovered and colonized by Europeans of French Spanish Italian or English ancestry.
     
  8. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    These imbeciles know nothing about argentina or south america
     
  9. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Let's put it this way. I'm not a Brit, a Frenchie, a Scottie, Irish, or German. I'm American.
     
  10. The Man

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    Matthysse looks like he has indigenous ancestry as well
     
  11. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Natives are the only "Americans" and even they came from somewhere. You're a european mutt :patsch
     
  12. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    No your nationality is American ethnically you're a Frenchie, a Scottie, Irish, or German, just like I'm an American of Russian, Irish, English, German and French ancestry.

    Why are black people black its because they are of African origin.
    Why are White people White because we are of European origin.
    why are Asians Asian looking because they are of Asian origin, yes that counts for something. Quit being silly anyone named Ovid's Exile isn't that stupid.

    Africa Asia and Europe are the cradles of our modern civilizations, everyone of us on planet earth can trace our ancestry back to those countries so the TS does have a semi valid point, especially about Lemieux who is French Canadian, they love being French why else do they want to speak French and not English.
     
  13. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yup, as are many of the great Cubans

    Felix Savon (means "soap" in French)
    Teofilo Stevenson (same as Adonis)
    Peter Quillin's dad is Hatian-Cuban
    Rances Bartolome,

    etc.
     
  14. qwertyblahblah

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    I was mocking this thread and ethnic nationalism by saying hey yeah Rigo with a French name is surely French too. But no, Matthysse isn't 'more French' than Takam and N'Dam who both live in and represent France. You're taking French as an ethnicity, which it's not. Lemieux doesn't speak French because he 'loves being French', just like you speaking English doesn't make you ethnically English. Lemieux is Canadian, he speaks French because he was born in Quebec, Canada, which has been independent from France for longer than the US has been independent from Britain, and is as linguistically and socially distinct from France as the US is from Britain. It doesn't matter whether Lemieux can trace his origins to France 300 years ago or his parents recently immigrated to Canada, he's Canadian, and no more French than I as an English-Canadian am. A French-speaking Canadian who identifies as French-Canadian isn't claiming attachment to France, like an Italian-Canadian or Italian-American might, but to to Quebec and French Canada as a society and culture.

    Black Americans also don't identify or have any attachment to Africa, but stress their identity as African-American to embrace their shared experience and culture and to distinguish themselves from white America that's oppressed them. Really, the ethnic purity that you're assuming doesn't exist at all. You kind of contradicted your first paragraph with your second: you're right enough to say European is an ethnicity, but Irish, English, German, Russian are not ethnicities.
     
  15. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Caucasian is the race, Latin is the ethnic group, and Francophonie is the sub ethnic group, so technically French is a part of a sub ethnic group. Lemieux obviously isn't French but his ancestry is, and no he's not putting France on the map, that's ridiculous. Although I disagree with your assessment of French Canadians not being semi attached to France one of my best friends is a French Canadian and his mother and father both were obsessed with and very proud of their French heritage.