Lennox Claudius Lewis vs. Roy Levesta Jones, Jr.

Apparently the Tyson fight was incredibly close to being done. It was the reason it took Jones a while to decide to go back down to fight Tarver. He said he kept the weight on because he was told the Tyson fight was essentially made.

 

Lewis is having a cheeky dig at RJJ when the fact is Lewis gave up his belt rather than fighting John Ruiz. And RJJ won a belt from Ruiz that Lewis originally vacated can you not see the irony in that ? so it makes Lewis's roast kind of baffling.

I think your taking my post too literally i'm posting in tongue and cheek, i'm not saying that John Ruiz would beat Lewis. I'm just saying i find it laughable that Lewis is trying to roast RJJ, when infact Ruiz hurt Holyfield and dropped him which is better than what Lewis did in 24 rounds vs him. And lets not forget Ruiz fought Holyfield, straight after Holyfield had a fairly good argument to beating Lewis in their 2nd fight, so i think Lewis is opening himself up to being roasted.

 

Tbh I haven't read/watched what Lewis said about RJJ. So I won't and can't criticise you for pulling him up on it.

I'm just saying that:

1. I don't think Lewis vacated a belt for fear of losing to Ruiz. If he would have fought Ruiz in 200 for the WBA, he'd have likely had to vacate one of the other titles for not defending against their mandatory. Instead of Ruiz, he fought the unbeaten Grant, who was considered a bigger threat than Ruiz at the time, and for what I'm confident was substantially more money.
2. Lewis was on a completely different level to Ruiz, who would have been tailormade for him.
3. On the whole Lewis did better against superior versions of Holyfield than Ruiz did.
4. Tua was another common opponent of the two.

 

No one is claiming Lewis was scared of Ruiz. But if Lewis wants to roast RJJ for beating Ruiz for a version of a world title, then I think we can have a cheeky dig at Lewis for vacating the belt against Ruiz, the same belt RJJ won and the same opponent Lewis refused to fight, so as I said I think there is some irony in that.

As for Holyfield he looked his age vs Lewis the 1st time, and Holyfield fought Ruiz straight after fighting Lewis. I think it was the same version of Holyfield against Ruiz that it was vs Lewis, it's just people don't like giving Ruiz credit because he had an ugly style.

I hate Ruiz's style of fighting but he did have some decent wins, and was effective in his own ugly way.

 

Fair enough. My post wasn't intended to criticise or contradict anything you said, just taking the subject matter and adding to it with fresh perspectives.

 

Mismatch

 

Yeah my post isn't really that serious it's not one of our serious debates in classic forum don't worry. It was just me seeing irony in Lewis's comment when in fact hes opening himself up to being roasted.

 

Fair enough but Jones started his career as a Middleweight, and was in the era of the Super Heavyweight division. You can't really expect a 5'11 former Middleweight to be fighting 6'5 240+ pound Heavyweights.

Whilst I agree Ruiz wasn't setting the world alight with his performances, it's still a very good achievement for RJJ to move up from Light Heavyweight, skipping Cruiserweight division entirely and winning a title at Heavyweight.

If Lewis wants to have a dig at RJJ for beating Ruiz, then we can also have a dig at Lewis for vacating the belt against Ruiz, and RJJ winning that title from the same fighter Lewis vacated against.

As for a possible match up between RJJ and Lewis, well it's pretty obvious Lewis destroys a 5'11 blown up Light Heavyweight.

 

Lennox ko (not tko), round 4.

Roy would have no chance at all and the fight would only last long enough for Lennox to perfect his range, that would probably happen in the first 4 rounds

 

Lennox is calling him a paper HW champ. Which I agree with. Brutally honest assessment by Lennox.

 

Lewis KO1