Lennox Lewis 1997 vs Joe Frazier 1971

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  1. Foreman Hook

    Foreman Hook ☆☆☆ G$ora ☆☆☆ Full Member

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    The Lewis who destroyed Golota vs teh Frazier who beat undefeated 31-0 Ali. 12 rounds.

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    My guess is Lennox wins by TKO6.
    Lennox would keep Frazier under control on teh outside, using his super long pawing jab - which is basicaly impossible to avoid IMO. Lewis would knock-down Frazier at least a few times with haymaker straight-rights, left-hooks And uppercuts. Frazier has a powerful left hook for his 205lb weight, but I doubt it has teh power to hurt Lennox bad - IMO McCall hits harder than Frazier and Rahman hits a lot harder than McCall even. If Frazier makes it onto the inside for a bit, his only hope i think is to punch Lewis's body as hard as he can, to try and make him gass - BUT Lewis is deadly in the clinches at smashing people who get inside, And this would make Lewis angry - probably leading to a earlier KO as was teh case with those who brought pressure-fighting to Lennox [Ruddock, Grant, Botha....] I think the 3rd or 4th knock-down will leave Frazier glassy-eyed as he stumbles up to his feet And teh ref stops it.
     
  2. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I can see two very different scenarios,with each man winning. Lewis could come out all guns blazing,hoping to catch the often slow starting Frazier with his big shots,and stop him. This could feasibly happen. But,if Lennox comes out cautiously,Frazier would warm up,and take the bout into the middle stages,and turn it into a war of attrition,and if that occurs,it'll be Joe who wins,by stopping his man sometime after round 10.
     
  3. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Lewis via TKO or KO early.
     
  4. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    If Lewis comes out and starts slow he keeps Frazier away with teh jab to soem success throwing the big right evry so often to keep Joe cautious. Evrytime Joe gets on the inside LEwis clinches and wears him down by leaning on him along with using his deadly in clinch uppercuts and a few semi-dirty shots to the kidneys or holing the back of the head . Joe dies in round 8-10.


    If Joe comes streight at him and takes an early fight to Lewis trying to wear down teh body Lewis goes nuts and out brawles him firing big rights to the head and clinching and uppercutting this could mean Joe is down in 2-4 rounds.


    Realy like what you posted Forman-Hook
     
  5. Bonecrusher

    Bonecrusher Lineal Champion Full Member

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    Ok I know Lewis has the power to KO Frazier, but lets be honest if Lewis can be hurt by Mccall, Briggs, Rahman Bruno and Mercer to name a few I have little doubt that Frazier also could hurt him. Frazier is super aggressive and that might cost him here early here but I really don't think so. I think Frazier lands enough wicked left hooks to the head and body in the early exchanges to get the respect of Lennox.. This will cause Lewis to box more on the outside and stay away from the exchanges on the inside and because of that I favor Lewis winning this fight on points but either man could put the others lights out at any point in the fight!!
     
  6. Foreman Hook

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    The 2 big reasons Lewis is a monster H2H are:

    1. Lennox can out-box anybody (apart from Ali).

    2. Lennox can out-brawl anybody (apart from Foreman).
    If someone apart from Foreman puts pressure on Lewis And tries to fight him up close or mid-range, then Lewis will destroy them easy and quickly - even Liston, Bowe, Frazier, Tyson, Marciano and Louis.
     
  7. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lewis does not beat the March 8,1971 Frazier that beat Ali in MSG...
     
  8. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Frazier has zero chance. Lennox by early, brutal and very one-sided beatdown.
     
  9. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Frazier would be put on the deck on the way in, but his pressure would start to grow on Lennox and eventually force a stoppage.
     
  10. Bonecrusher

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    I went with Lewis Decision, but I can see this happening as I stated in my post, Frazier is dangerous all night and Lewis has his best chance staying away and boxing..
     
  11. Son of Gaul

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    I love Frazier h2h but Lennox Lewis is all wrong for him. As we saw in his fight against Tua, Lennox knew how to use his size and follow a gameplan...especially when his opponent was dangerous. I think a fight with Frazier would go almost exactly as it went down with Tua...circling, throwing lead rights and clinching followed by uppercuts when cornered. Before you guys go nuts on me, I'm aware that Joe Frazier is better at almost everything than David Tua but Lewis was so good at managing these kinds of situations that I believe the outcome in this matchup would be almost identical...except closer on the cards and Lennox looking like he was actually in a fight(a rare thing in his prime).
     
  12. spion

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    1. Lennox can out-box anybody (apart from Ali). In addition to Ali, I would add Larry Holmes to that statement.
     
  13. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    It's highly debatable that Lewis can outbrawl any fighter in the history of the division.

    He was certainly better at brawling than he's often given credit for, but the only good fighter he comprehensively outbrawled was Briggs.
     
  14. ticar

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    :lol::lol::patsch
     
  15. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lewis - Frazier would be a replay of Foreman - Frazier I, just that Lewis is much more precise with his punches than Big George. Frazier wouldn't be given the time to land a single punch.