Lennox Lewis (1999) vs. George Foreman (1973)

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  1. GOAT Primo Carnera

    GOAT Primo Carnera Member of the PC Fan Club Full Member

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    That´s a fight I wouldn´t bet a penny on. But I´m 1000% sure someone would fall. 0 % chance this goes the distance.
     
  2. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lewis was ponderous at 245 pounds and if Ali could not run from George then 100% sure that Lewis could not, he would be only a bigger target with a crappy chin.(when you said that he had the chin to beat Foreman... Lol just lol).
    Ali outlasted Foreman, but he could not outbox him.
    A guy who was Ko on his feet against Bruno and knocked out by 2 mediocre guys is not surviving to the undefeated Foreman that Fought Norton.

    Lewis being a little taller is irrelevant because George is the stronger guy with much better chin and harder puncher here, he would be happy of having a bigger target.
     
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  3. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thicker bones... Jesus .. Ridiculous
    Foreman ALWAYS had huge Frame,simply in the 90s we saw all the mass that this big frame could carry, in the 70s he was in shape even a little drained when he was under 230.
    His bones were equal in the 70s and 90s.

    "92 Foreman was better than 70s Foreman" what an idiot
     
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  4. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Lewis does not have the chin Ali does. Come on, i can't believe anyone made that comparison. Lol.
     
  5. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Lewis is being sold a little bit short here.
    The ‘73 Foreman despite being a monster had never faced a heavyweight of the likes of Lewis.
    Six feet five, 10/15 pounds heavier, a great jab, one punch knockout power in the right hand, a good left hook and good all round boxing skills, and may just be as strong,plus when fully focused and in the zone mentally tough.
    I don’t think there’s much in this. I’m inclined to go with Foreman especially if this goes into the second half of the fight but even then would the ‘73 Foreman who was mainly blasting out guys early have the gas to do this? Because he isn’t blasting Lewis out early. In fact coming out of his corner in destruction mode early on he’s going to be eating some huge shots.
    I’m still inclined to go with Foreman, mainly because of his chin and little but extra durability and toughness, but not with any great confidence.
     
  6. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    I have a different take on it but i appreciate your take.

    Given that Lewis was hurt vs Briggs and Holyfield very early in the fight (and this is the improved Lewis, not the McCall version), it wouldn't shock me to see Foreman land a big punch on him. Once he has Lewis hurt, Foreman will go for the finish.
     
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  7. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Firstly you acted like you know anythinf about physics and now you're showing that you're clueless about biology. Seriously? People getting a better chin in older age is biological fact? Can you back it up with any biological researches? Or that people get thicker bones from late 20s to late 30s?
    If you say that it's simple biology, you should have anything to back it up.
     
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  8. BCS8

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    Lewis was too big and too good for Foreman imo. At his best Lewis had too many tools for Foreman to deal with as well as ATG punching power.

    If you could take the boxing brain of older Foreman and put into into his younger version, then we might see something.
     
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  9. BCS8

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    I would say that old Foreman was calmer, more calculating and systematic than his younger version. While I agree his younger version was the better one, that's because of his physical abilities and not his boxing brain. Old Foreman would never have gassed out trying to blow people out.
     
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  10. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree, but it didn't change the fact that 1970s version was much better overall, even if he improved his boxing IQ.
     
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  11. Steven brown

    Steven brown New Member Full Member

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    As soon as foreman landed flush its over .
     
  12. Johnny_B

    Johnny_B Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Yes, Foreman always had big frame, but his 90s frame was slightly bigger than his 70s frame.
    His bones were not as thick in the 70s as they were in the 90s. In Foreman's case, as in with most healthy males, your bones are slightly thicker when you mature and are at your physical peak in terms of raw power, aged 30 to 45. You're a bit heavier then, and your bones addapt to sustain the extra load.
     
  13. Johnny_B

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    There is more than enough medical evidence for what I said, I just ain't a doctor to be able to explain it to you more in detail.
    But just look at how most men are bigger in their 30s and 40s then when they were in their 20s. You mature, your bones get a bit thicker and your frame a bit wider. I have countless shirts and pants from my early 20s that don't fit me anymore, and my body fat has no increased one bit, I'm just bigger as a whole.
     
  14. 70sFan865

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    You said it's simple biology, so you should explain that if it's simple.
    Anecdotic evidence is the worst thing in science. You need far more than that.

    Besides, you didn't touch chin aspect - how your age can make you more durable? It doesn't make any sense.
     
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  15. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    As soon as Lewis lands flush Foreman goes down too. And Lewis knew how to end things.
     
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