Lennox Lewis 2000 vs Mike Tyson 1988 vs Larry Holmes 1979

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  1. Slacker

    Slacker Big & Slow Full Member

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    He beat Holmes, in case you were not aware.

    He beats Lennox because Lennox style is perfect for Tyson, plus Tyson feeds off fear in his opponent and Lennox was a giant sissy.

    Plus Lennox was KO'ed by much lesser fighters than Tyson.

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABZu5v2JPuE[/ame]



    Or this:


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jmFXl1sHh0[/ame]



    There is no way in hell he is going to deal with this:


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYZzMPsm6c4&feature=related[/ame]


    It would end just like this, Mike slipping a jab from Lewis, cutting off the right, body/head combo, unleash the fury. Lennox slobbering on the canvas.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiKokH1rEUY[/ame]
     
  2. EverLast

    EverLast Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's a pretty **** poor assessment.

    Smith held on for DEAR LIFE, and made the fight ugly, where as tyson took the other two fights on comfortable decisions. Are you telling me lennox never had decision wins? How about mercer, who he barely beat aswell. The example I gave is just about as ridiculous as yours, as it was probably a lennox developing towards his peak against a good, tough fighter.

    Nonetheless, Tyson would KO lennox, and would beat Holmes. Let's not forget that Larry Holmes' loss to tyson in 88, was years before his later fights against the likes of holyfield, mercer and mccall, all fights where he was competitive. Tyson never gets credit for having blasted Holmes away like he did.
     
  3. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    As much as I like Tyson, he's never proven he could beat a big (tall) elite, in his prime heavyweight that can box.

    Lewis > Holmes > Tyson
     
  4. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    :patsch

    Holmes was 38 years old and more than a year retired when he decided $2.8 million was enough to cover his hospital expenses after fighting Tyson. You probably weren't even born yet when the fight happened. :yep
     
  5. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    Tyson was a machine during his prime but he never dealt with anything with the size and skill that Lewis possessed, no doubt it would be a tough ask for Lewis and a fight he could definately lose but i see the jab and the uppercut playing a huge part in this matchup, i think Tyson would be very wary of getting caught by that uppercut which would help Lewis keep the fight at a distance he's comfortable with. I think the Lewis of 2000 is experienced enough to survive the early onslaught Tyson would bring (1994 version of Lewis loses to prime tyson imo) before wearing Tyson out with the jab and leaning on the inside before stopping him in about 11 rounds. People love to bring up that Rahman defeat but then fail to grasp the point that Lewis had done very little altitude training and thus gassed very quickly, he rightly lost that fight for showing a lack of dedication towards his training. He went back to the drawing board and stopped Rahman in 4 rounds, there is a reason Lewis defeated every man he faced... he was that damned good.:good
     
  6. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  7. KO-KING

    KO-KING Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lewis, expect huge tyson votes because people are idiots
     
  8. Slacker

    Slacker Big & Slow Full Member

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    No. Styles make fights.

    We've seen Lewis laid down by lesser punchers, with worse defense who didn't posses Mike's perfect fundamentals, speed, explosiveness and most importantly....head movement.

    Watch the clips I posted. I chose those from the millions available for a reason.

    Because all the tools McCall and Rahman used to beat Lewis, Tyson had and was much better at.

    Both of those guys KO'ed him after slipping a punch and catching him clean with something he didn't see coming.

    Neither of them have the head movement, punch slipping skills, speed or explosiveness as Tyson.

    If Mike could get inside Lewis jab, which he certainly could do in 88 with his head movement and speed, Lewis would be out cold before he knew what happened.

    Lewis simply isn't fast enough to keep Mike outside for 12 rounds.

    It would take a larger, quicker HW like Ali, who could keep the distance and quickly move away to really dominate a prime Tyson.

    Lewis was too slow on his feet, Mike was too quick. Lewis is too predictable, Mike's bob & weave was perfect.

    Tyson KO's Lewis 10 out of 10.
     
  9. WarpedDesign

    WarpedDesign Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm amazed that nobody is backing Holmes here, but I suppose it's not a surprise. If you can call an ATG under-rated, Holmes is that man.
     
  10. Blizz42

    Blizz42 Boxing Addict banned

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    Mike Tyson at his best annihilates both guys. Tyson too fast for both of those guys.
     
  11. Danny

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    Larry Holmes, at his Peak, would have SKOOLED Lewis. Lewis hold one advantage, he hits harder than Holmes, every other attribute Larry is the superior.

    Peak Tyson would have over-whelmed a Peak Lewis. A damn shell of the fighter that once was Tyson went 8 rounds with Lewis.
     
  12. Blizz42

    Blizz42 Boxing Addict banned

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    If we are taking each fighter from the year the T.S. wants us to judge the fighters in a round robin by, wtf are you even talking about?
     
  13. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    I do respect your opinion as Tyson was indeed a beast but i think your overlooking the fact that Lewis is a far more clever fighter than he was in 94 where inexperience let him walk into a punch he would have avoided a few years later under Stewards tutorledge, im not really convinced by the two defeats in which Lewis suffered were due to McCall's and Rahman's tools as he was actually leading on the cards but let incompetence, inexperience get in the way and in the Rahman fights case he gassed.

    Against McCall he got caught and walked into the punch, McCall set the trap and Lewis willingly took the bait, it was very clever from McCall and not something i can see Tyson doing, the trap was set with the use of distance and McCall being on the backfoot, it allowed himself time to set up that perfect punch upstairs whilst Lewis was in a false sense of security. Tyson fights going forward which is why i cant see him doing something similar, i'd also doubt that Lewis would be stupid enough to make the same mistake twice.

    I also think your overlooking Lewis's inside game, i believe Tyson would be tied up before he could get anything effective off, Lewis would ensure that he was too close for Tyson to get anything effective off by crowding his work, he would achieve this by pushing Tyson down, to the side, pushing him backwards, Lewis would wait for the perfect opportunity to rip Tyson with big uppercuts whenever he felt comfortable enough to do so. Lewis imo would not need speed to deal with Tyson as his boxing brain is more than sufficent to nulify any disadvantage in speed he may have.
     
  14. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    I'll go for the guy who wasn't knocked out by C class fighters in his prime.
     
  15. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    :? Tua had no head or upperbody movement like 80s Tyson Tua was there to be hit. Thats why Ibeabuchi hit him with everthing, but the kitchen sink. All Tua had was a left hook. Tyson had a left hook to body, head, uppercut, right hand that rivaled Lewis', and could fight midrange as well as obviously inside. Dont confuse 88 Tyson with 90 Tyson its a world of a difference.