Lennox lewis 90-98

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  1. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Hes referring to Biggs who Bowe beat the **** out of and stopped in 8 rounds while up on the scorecards. Lennox Lewis showed far more flaws than Riddick Bowe coming up, and that cant be denied. He was knocked out by Mcall, and outboxed worse by Frank Bruno who was leading on the cards when Lewis landed that shot with his eyes closed. PP is delusional when it comes to Bowe and lewis.
     
  2. PowerPuncher

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    He did beat the crap out of Biggs eventually after eating about 200punches himself, Lennox didn't get hit nearly as much against Bruno as Bowe did against Biggs or Tubbs. At every stage of his career Bowe was easy to hit
     
  3. lefthook31

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    yes you got it wrong. Bruno was ahead 59-55 on the last judges card.
     
  4. lefthook31

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    I guess only you saw it that way or the judges were blind. :lol: I dont remember Bowe getting knocked out either like Lewis did.
     
  5. lefthook31

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    Wrong!

    [url]http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=1853&cat=boxer[/url]
     
  6. lefthook31

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    Your wrong about the scores. If you go the page it shows where the fighter was during the scoring. Lewis was behind on the last card and he was having a tough time with Lewis, tougher than Bowe had with anyone besides Golota.
     
  7. The Kurgan

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    Drawing on two cards and being up on one is not being "up on the cards".
     
  8. lufcrazy

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    The bowe v lewis debate is moot because bowe ducked him anyways.

    The bruno fight is a terrific example of lewis's mental fortitude and aside from tyson, noone was ever ahead on cards against frank; his losses were all come from behind knockouts.
     
  9. PowerPuncher

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    Not blind, just working bought and paid for by Bowe's management, around 50% of fans had Tubbs beating Bowe, Bowe got stunned by Biggs too
     
  10. lufcrazy

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    I think over the 90's as a whole lewis was the best h2h fighter but holy was the most accomplished with lewis a close second.

    Even if lewis gets the nod from trash can till fan man, holy still spent about 6 years at the top of the division.
     
  11. lufcrazy

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    Been watching a few of the fights from this era again today.

    Riddick giving his belt up rather than face a man who'd clowned him in the olympics is totally unforgiveable and not becoming of a champion. had lewis refused to rematch vitali he too would have been demoted as chamipon, the same way, i'm sure, if Johnson would have beaten hart and jeffries ha drefused to face him etc.

    So Bowe cannot be classed as the best heavyweight when he's openly refused to meet the consensus number 1.

    That being said, Lewis's victory over tucker was top class but not as good as holyfield's over Bowe, so Holyfield takes back his crown desrvedly so.

    Lewis's best year in retrospect was 97 (mccall, akinwande, golota) but it just was not as good as Holy's (tyson, moorer). noone really had a good 98 so holy keeps it by defauly up until 99 when Lewis twice dominates him.

    1990-1992: holyfield
    1992: bowe
    1992-1993: lewis
    1993-1994: holyfield
    1994-1995: foreman
    1995-1996: bowe
    1996: tyson
    1996-1999: holyfield
    1999 onwards: lewis.

    I'm fairly happy with this because Lewis kind of defaults his way to being the best in 92 when bowe ducks him, but parity is restored when holyfield outboxes big daddy to usurp any claim lewis had of being the best. holy deserved a 1 point decision (or draw if you scored it 10-9) so retains his status until he retires leaving moorer as the next best heavyweight but he's promptly flattened by big george. Foreman refused to fight anyone of note whilst in the meantime bowe was knocking out hide, gonzalez and holyfield. next year sees golota batter bowe before fouling out leaving a void which is brutally filled by mike tyson. 97 is arguably the best year with both lewis and holyfield notching up great victories over their contemporaries leaving to a huge buildup and eventual showdown in 1999 which results in every claim being unified together for the sake of clarity.
     
  12. lufcrazy

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    I don't think it's that significant a gap to be honest. By this point they were promoting the two as the HW kings on an inevitable collision course.

    to be honest, both had quite a shitty year: briggs coming off a gift decision against a 900 year old dinosaur. mavrovic and bean were both never have beens. they're slightly ahead but not enough to out do vander's great work the year before.

    as I said neither did anything great that year so the status quo just resumed, atleast in my eyes.