Lennox Lewis '97 Vs Ali '67

Lewis can't connect with anything significant, Ali dances around and gives him death by a thousand cuts. Prime Lewis doesn't beat the Sonny Liston of the first Ali fight, imho. Lewis is very, very good but he doesn't cut it against those two.

 

Short, sweet and to the point.

 

I think he was being sarcastic. Ali wasn't a huge puncher, but his power tends to get underrated. Foreman said getting hit by Ali was about like getting hit by Holyfield. The thing is, you don't get to hit Ali back like you do Holyfield, and you don't see a lot of Ali's punches coming and his jabs take all the resistance out of your neck. For a guy without huge power, he knocked a lot of iron-chinned mother****ers the **** out.

 

A prime Ali....was amazing. He was proably the best HW of all time in his prime...before he lost to Frazier..before his stance against the war. When he came back 3 yrs later Ali was still great...but clearly lost a step or two from his prime form.

ALI beats LL in his prime not matter what kind of condition LL is in.

 

I see Ali is still on a pedestal here, but a lot of you seem to forget that a '67 Ali was just slightly heavier then Chambers is now... and the heaviest 'strong' oponent he faced was Liston, who today would be a small HW and back then was concidered a monster. And he would be put against a hard punching 240+ 6'6" athletic giant. And people who bring up Lennox lesser fights, seem to forget Ali had a few very close bouts (even gift decisions according to some) with lower class fighters also.

So Ali would use his stick and move technic, and I guess it would end up a points decision. With a certain win for Ali if the fight was back in '67 (he always got the decision when a fight was close) and could go either way if the fight would be held in '97.

Lennox would never knock him out, Ali's chin may be among the best ever in boxing history. Ali got trough tremendous beatings from punchers in the same power class as Lennox and only hit the deck a few times.

 

Liston wasn't known as a monster for his height or his weight, it was his power and his reach. He had a LONGER reach than Lewis, and according to all available evidence, a bigger punch. Sonny Liston was no ****ing joke. It was just his bad luck to have Ali come up when he did.

 

I think A fully primed Ali could take a decision over any version of Lennox Lewis.. Sure, Lewis's size, strength, reach and skills would make it a tough night's work, but at the end of the day, I don't think anyone outboxes a 1967 Ali.

 

Liston was known to be a physical monster, he was heavy for a heavyweight in his time (220 range I believe) but didn't have a bigger puch than Lewis he just had a more agressive style, a lot of his opponents could end the fight on their feet though. If you had a weak jaw (like Patterson for instance) you'd be toast. But the point is, Lewis surpasses everything Ali ever faced by a mile so he won't be engaging in a fight against Lewis wich actually would be the best way to beat the guy.

 

No he had a bigger punch then Lewis. 220 was big for Liston. I really think his prime weight is 210. But with the modern weight training and protein plans I really think he could make a solid 240. Most of the muscle went in his upper body, so he could strengthen his upper body and then add more muscle to his legs and lower body.
Lewis never faced anything like Ali either.
Geez this was hard to read. Ali would beat Lewis period. Lewis wouldn't connect enough, and doesn't have the chin IMO. What makes you think Ali wouldn't engage in a fight..? What else would he do? Ali always "fought his opponents", but like you said he had a different style.

 

ALI by A Unanimous decision,Lewis would get outclassed

 

I got lewis late stoppage here....

 

You're out of your mind. I would take prime George Foreman over Lewis any and every day of the week, and he would probably be a solid 4-1 favorite over prime Lewis in Vegas. I would also take Liston (so would the bookies) and I would make Lewis even money with prime Frazier.

 

ali would out speed and out box him all night long.

 

I happen to completely agree with this.

 

Close fight...Lennox would have trouble...I believe a 2000 LL gives him more problems..in 15 rounds ill take Wide UD for Ali and at 12 rounds I believe its close