Lennox Lewis advises Wilder on his jab

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  1. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    I'm sure most of you have seen this, but maybe you haven't seen it in a while. It's a great video!
     
  2. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    It's telling that a fighter can get so far without the basic lessons these days.
    I mean, with all due respect to Lennox Lewis, I acknowledge the weight the advice holds coming from the person of Lennox Lewis, BUT couldn't any one of us shown Wilder that ?
    And it seemed like Wilder really hadn't seen how to throw a jab before.

    Honestly, when those dusty old school American guys said "there's hardly any trainers around now" I believe them.
     
  3. Frankel

    Frankel Active Member Full Member

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    Wilder is very limited. But Lennox telling a fighter how to throw the jab, is like Butterbean advising Wilder on dieting. Lewis had a terrible jab, he was given a lesson in jabbing by Frank Bruno. Even Ray Mercer out-jabbed Lewis, who's jab was nothing but a paw a distraction, thrown to set-up his devastating right hand.
     
  4. he grant

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    I never saw it .. obviously it was from years ago .. how long ago ? I like Deontay. He has talent, a big heart and nasty power .. just started so late ..
     
  5. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I don't think it was so much Wilder couldn't/didn't now how to throw a jab. It seems he is trying to throw the jab with power instead of what Lewis is showing him which is more for speed/scoring.

    Wilder is a power puncher and throws everything behind every punch. The trainers he has had seem to more of build upon that and make that his main offense so to speak instead of trying to change him. It seems to have worked because he made it to heavyweight champ.
     
  6. mcvey

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    I always thought Lewis' jab was rather overated, he tended to paw with it imo.Wilder's jab is pretty effective nowadays,imo.
    His limitations are that he tends to throw 90% long punches,though he has shown more inclination to use the uppercut recently.His competition has been farcical, but I think he may be able to raise his game when it is required.
    The problem is his brains- trust seem to only be concerned with maximising their earnings from their "cash -cow", instead of giving him fights in which he can "learn on the job".It's a reflection of our times that we have two versions of the heavyweight champion,[ Wilder & Joshua,] and both of them are rudimentary works in progress.
    I was only ever a lowly foot soldier in the noble art,a" rock bottom feeder," but was taught to "jab through an opponent".
     
  7. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Exactly. Well said.

    Wilder is one of, if not the first SHW I can think of, that uses his body as a power puncher, rather than just a long range jabber. Sometimes he throws combos with his upper body that just look scary.
     
  8. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Lewis should advise Wilder where to land when he gets hit with a good shot from some mediocre HW - he sure has "been there, done that!":eusa_dance:
     
  9. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yes definitely. Honestly with Wilder I think he is as good as he is going to get. I don't think it would be wise for him to start being cautious and using a quick jab like Lewis showed him. It worked for Lewis but I don't think it will for Wilder. He seems to be dominating fine as it is with his current style.
     
  10. Farmboxer

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    Lewis can't fight for Wilder in the ring..................
     
  11. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Practically speaking, a short session with Lewis in front of the cameras won't completely change Wilders style. Lewis style was formed around his jab. Wilder won't just transition into it like that, no way.

    There may be a time in a fight where Wilder remembers that trick and uses it. But I think Lewis was just trying to open up his mind to the fact that there are other good ways to jab.

    Also, why is this in general? Lewis is retired.
     
  12. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Goes to show how technically crude Wilder is. His punching technique is a JOKE and Lennox exposed him.
     
  13. Odins beard

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    Lennox is a great trainer, we saw the great work he did with David Price.
     
  14. Zakman

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    Like I said, he could train Wilder how to get knocked out. :lol:
     
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  15. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

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    If by "trainers" you mean "TEACHERS" then yes, I concur completely.

    I make the distinction between the two, because oftentimes, a trainer will simply tell a fighter what to do, and what to work on ... whereas a teacher (people in the Emmanuel Steward, Eddie Futch or Bouie Fisher mould) is the type of person who can not only tell a fighter what to do or what to improve, but can openly demonstrate to the fighter HOW it should be done, and WHY the fighter should perfect those certain things (e.g, correctly throwing a jab), expounding the benefits of doing so.

    I'm certain there are people in and around boxing who are teachers of boxing, and who have a wealth of knowledge to pass on to willing recipients (people such as Bernard Hopkins and Teddy Atlas spring to mind); I simply think it's a case of those people seeking out the up-and-coming fighters, or the up-and-coming fighters seeking out these people, in an attempt to learn and perpetually improve themselves and their ringcraft.