Lennox Lewis & David Haye vs Wladimir and Vitali Klitschko: Who has achieved more?

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  1. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    We all know how Klitschko fans like to combine the brother's accomplishments, as if they are the same fighter or a boxing tag team, in order to declare them superior to other fighters throughout history.

    Despite the insistence of those of us who actually love and understand the noble art of fistic pugilism that this is not fair, and that each man's achievements must be judged alone in order to truly understand their place amongst boxing's pantheon of greats, the Klitschko fans continue to do it, like the ignorant little imbeciles they are.

    Ladies and Gentlemen, it appears as though we're witnessing an era in which the history books of boxing are being rewritten, and that from this day forth, all boxers will have their resumes and accolades combined with another successful fighter when their career is scrutinized.

    So, it's time to look at who has achieved more in the sport of boxing:

    The Klitscho Brothers: Wladimir and Vitali Klitschko

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    The Cornrow Brothers: Lennox Lewis and David Haye.

    First we'll look at the career accomplishments of the Cornrow Brothers, or C2 as they're often known.

    The Cornrow Brothers - Undisputed HW and CW Champions of the Wordl

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    Lennox Lewis beat every fighter he ever faced, including 3 ATGs in Evander Holyfield, Mike Tyson and a prime Vitali Klitschko. He bowed out of the sport on top, having passed on the baton to the next dominant champion, but not before mangling his face with it.



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    David Haye first cleared out the cruiserweight division before he stepped up and breathed new life in to the dormant HW division. Haye's brand of exciting fighting saw him gain 5 knockouts in his 7 HW fights, and included a victory over the biggest HW champ in history. His only HW loss came to the best fighter of his generation, Wladimir Klitschko.



    The Klitschko Brothers - Undisputed HW Champions of the World


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    Vitali Klitschko played out a career which was both darkened by injury, and brightened by the limelight of his younger brother. After defeat to Lewis, Vitali battled with injuries while his brother reigned as champion, returning to put together a nice winning streak, albeit against mediocre opposition. Vitali was certainly a cut above his competition at the time, but fell short when he truly stepped up to elite level.


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    After some humiliating early knockouts which exposed a serious aversion to being hit in the head, Wlad intelligently changed his style to minimise the chances that he might get punched. With this new style Wlad was able to put together an impressive dominant streak in the HW division, including a win over undisputed cruiserweight champ David Haye. Unfortunately Wlad never squared off against the number two fighter in the division, or the imposing Nikolai Valuev.


    Conclusion - The Cornrow Brothers

    For me, the combination of being a two weight world champion, and the wins over several ATG fighters means that C2 ranks higher here.

    Additionally, when the two have squared of Lewis beat Vitali inside of the distance in a savage performance, while Wladimir only managed a timid turnout and a points win against 210lb David Haye.


    What are your thoughts? Who do you think has achieved more?

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  2. Vidic

    Vidic Rest in Peace Manny Full Member

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    Oh my god :lol:

    Brilliant
     
  3. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I didn't want to...But I voted for the Klits.

    No neither of them arein Lennox's class as a top 5-10 atg, but they are both top 20 (for me 14 & 18, top 25 st the worst)...Haye is not even top 50 and brings nothing to the table to add to Lennox...A shame that lennox got paired with such a poor dance partner in this thread...I like Haye, but he has NO RESUME
     
  4. damian38

    damian38 BigDramaShow Full Member

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    didn't Haye and Lewis also have humiliating KO losses in their careers? Carl Thompson, Oliver "Crack-Head" McCall, Hasim Rahman?

    brilliant effort though :rofl
     
  5. MrBumboclart

    MrBumboclart Active Member Full Member

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    Lennox Lewis and David Haye...purely because Lewis is in that option.

    Nothing the Klitschkos or Haye have done come close to Lennox's achievements.

    Put all three of them back in Lewis' era and watch them fight as journeymen. Against Prime Holyfield, Mercer, McCall, Ruddock, Morrison, Bruno? Heck even a on the slide Tyson would put them to shame.
     
  6. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Lewis accomplished more than both Klits combined.

    Deal with it haters.
     
  7. Hook!

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  8. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    The Klitschkos do not have one win over a single all time great between them. C2 has wins over THREE all time greats, including Vitali Klitscho, not to mention titles in TWO different divisions.

    Lewis beat every single fighter he fought, whereas Wladimir hasn't even fought the second best fighter in his division.
     
  9. Vidic

    Vidic Rest in Peace Manny Full Member

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    Vitali is a C2 leftover, what has he done to earn a shot at Haye since losing to Lewis?
     
  10. damian38

    damian38 BigDramaShow Full Member

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    for which belt, the WBO International or WBA Inter-Continental?
     
  11. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    :deal
     
  12. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Q. What Lennox Lewis and David Haye have in common?
    A. They both were retired by Klitchko
     
  13. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    truth.

    even on a joke thread, the truth hurts Klitfans.
     
  14. Overhill

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  15. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    When Manuel Charr gets stopped inside of 6 rounds by Vitali, does that mean he's retired Vitali?