Lennox Lewis in Today's Heavyweight Division

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    You don't need to be an extraordinary talent to beat Rahman or Oliver McCall...

    Once again, I think that you really sell today's fighters short. And you would almost certainly be saying the same things about McCall, Rahman, Ray Mercer, and most of the fighters from Lewis' era if they came along today.
     
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  2. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie

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    Lewis also held every single possible advantage against Ray Mercer (except of chin), yet he went life and death against aging and rusty Ray who hadn't won a fight in 30 months. And mind here - it was better version of Lewis, not the Pepe Correa's one.
     
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  3. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie

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    Actually I think that McCall and Rahman would've had very tough time against AJ, Wilder, Miller, Parker etc. In-shape Fury would dominate both.

    McCall and Rahman were good, but very basic fighters, nothing special in terms of size, skills or speed.
     
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  4. Pat M

    Pat M Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When I was listing the excellent fighters of today, I left out Parker, my mistake. Glad you listed him. I also left off Usyk, he is a guy who might beat anybody else on the list. Tremendous athlete with great boxing skills AND a southpaw. That's why I don't like to make lists, it's easy to forget somebody that deserves to be on the list. I didn't make a list of all the young, big, skilled prospects with great amateur careers for that reason. Maybe some of the posters here who keep up with all the young prospects can make one.

    EDIT - I left off Whyte, another big, hard punching, aggressive fighter and Chisora and Takam...too many to list.
     
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  5. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Mercer also put on the best performance I've ever seen him deliver in all fairness.
    I'm not a Lewis fan in the least mind you. I thought he fought too safe and was chiney but his fundamentals were excellent. There were times he looked spectacular and times he looked like he wasnt interested.
    Joshua looks much better than Ortiz but still lacks in proper fundamentals to me. Ortiz doesn't even know what fundamentals are. His technique is awful.
     
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  6. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yet skill wise they were more advanced than , Joshua, Wilder, Miller, and the rest, and did against better competition win or lose.
     
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  7. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    How many Ortiz fights have you actually watched in full? Your description of him is completely off the mark. Maybe you're confusing him with somebody else?
     
  8. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    No not at all.
     
  9. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Exactly
     
  10. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joshua is considerably better than McCall or Rahman, don't see any reasonable argument to the contrary.

    McCall lost to Bruno and barely made beat a fat, 45 year old Holmes. He's not likely to beat Joshua at all.
     
  11. Webbiano

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    He'd do a lot better than Muhammad Ali, George Foreman or Joe Frazier would
     
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  12. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    He would be competiting for the top spot in any era, and would grab the strap in any era, at least for a time. His major problem was focus and inconsistent preparation. In the ring, he was extremely formidible. And in the end, he beat every man he faced, doing so in an extrememely rough era.
     
  13. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    I've said this before and it's an unpopular view around here but I think Joe Frazier would be in a lot of trouble in today's heavyweight division. He'd be much better off fighting cruiserweight.
     
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  14. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A rough era? Were talking about an era in which Moorer, old Foreman, and Riddick Bowe all became lineal champions. I don't think any of those guys become champions today.

    It's quite likely if he comes around today, he loses to Joshua and never gains recognition as champ.
     
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  15. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lewis wouldn't enjoy the physical advantages today that he enjoyed in his own era. How would he adjust to being the smaller, weaker man in the ring?