Lennox Lewis is overrated

Oh Christ now Chris Byrd enters the equation too......

No-one, but NO-ONE wanted to see Lewis fight Byrd. How can you say he didn't make the fights people wanted to see and then bring up a guy that would have been steamrollered inside of 2 rounds against Lewis?

As far as I know, a fight with WALDO was never in the offing. Remember WALDO is about 10 years younger than Lewis and only won the WBO title and held it for a couple of years at best before Sanders starched him, which pretty much removed any interest in a fight with Lewis. Bear in mind WALDO had a ropey period back then and was getting knocked over in pretty much every fight and you see why a fight with Lewis wouldn't have won Lewis many friends, when Tyson was still out there to be fought.

I do agree that VITLAY was a bad fight though, and Lewis should have retired after the Tyson fight instead of carrying on without motivation.

 

And the only other guy to beat Lewis, he made him cry like a baby:yep

 

Yeah Lewis had no excuse for the 1st fight, but he avenged It.

He was still winning until Ko'ed though.

 

Moorer actually has a concrete chin because he doesn't fit Zakmans criteria. What was it again?

'he has never, while fighting for the title in Cancun on a Monday afternoon with a slight chance of rain, been knocked out by a non-title holding black Jewish man with a left hook'

Or something.

 

Prime Lewis couldn't be beaten by prime Calzaghe, so I think it is safe to assume Lennox is pretty good.

 

Oh come on man, it's ****ing OBVIOUS!!!!

 

It's idiotic to make the Lewis ducking Byrd and Wlad call. Wlad may have gotten the fight if he got past Corrie Sanders, there was an interest, but he lost so Kirk Johnson (if i remember right) got the fight, then Vitali subbed for him. People weren't asking for Byrd they were asking for Grant anyway.

 

He has Wladimir Klitschko out there for years and never took that fight,
Lewis could not have taken that fight unless Waldo had dropped his WBO belt, which he had no intention of doing then - unless Lewis dropped the WBC. At that time, WBO did not allow unification.

He didn't fight Byrd, he gave up two titles avoiding fights
Against Ruiz and Byrd. He fought who instead? Grant and Vitali (or Tyson, can't remember). Either way, he took tougher fights rather than being pushed around by the ABC's. Isn't that we want ALL fighters to do? (Incidently, I notice Holy wasn't too proud to pick up the cast offs....)

The fight against Vitali was slapped together 2 weeks before the fight occured due to that being the only opponent that HBO and the Promoters would allow to be subbed in that position.
Correct. Shouldn't he be commended for going ahead with the fight rather than pulling out? (Also, the WBC then had no issue in allowing Kirk to face off with Vitali as an eliminator.....)


Then, in his later years as he was The Champion in the division, he also didn't fight the best guys that people really wanted him to fight
Like who? Wald. See above. People wanted to see him fight Tua, and Golota, and Grant (who AT THE TIME was undefeated and touted as the next big thing), and Holy. Briggs and Morrison too, they were punchers, and everyone likes to see punchers.

Who should he have fought instead?

He took the Johnson fight as an all Canadian thing, and it was obvious he was in it solely for the money at that point. That's not an admirable thing, no, but understandable.

 

:smoke I dont think the second OLIVER fight meant anything ! But the rest of his carreer is certainly outstanding !

 

He also undertrained more often than either, like I said he's more skilled but smaller (hence P4P), he might've been considered better if he wasn't lazy as hell.

 

Neither should Douglas when Holy fought him, and probably Tyson too in the 2nd fight, if we're bringing mental cases into it.

Of course in Lewis's case it's all Lewis's fault, whereas Holy can't be blamed for who's put in front of him can he :nut :nut :nut

 

Yes but was Lewis to blame for that, or Don King for forcing a sick man into fighting?

I thought Lewis actually took it easy on McCall in that fight when he realised what was going on. Again it's just so easy to bash and blame Lewis for his opponents problems.