Lennox Lewis is overrated

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  1. Bigcat

    Bigcat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  2. Zakman

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    On the contrary, Drex, as I've said before, those losses are nowhere near as significant as Lewis fans like to make out, because Holyfield was 37 and CLEARLY past his prime. Even then, the second fight could have gone either way, as the scoring of many ringside journalists for Holyfield shows!

    Bottom line - Holyfield was already greater than Lewis and had established himself as THE "HW champion of the 1990s" BEFORE he and Lewis ever fought. A past-prime loss and a debatable draw don't change that.:-(
     
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  3. Bigcat

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    Lewis v Holyfield 1 was a travesty, but to both mens credit they were willing to do it twice.. Lewis fought a past his prime Holyfield i agree, but Lennox still had a healthy respect for him by not diving in to finish the older man overzealously .. Lewis was a class act.. I think the whole world saw that..

    Like i said , he never once ducked anyone, and if he was decisively beaten, he overturned the loss by stoppage..

    Every man who ever faced Lennox in the prize ring as a pro, he beat..

    NO ONE.. Got one over on him, he was a masterful fighter who was defensively as good as he was offensively..

    ATG top tenner at heavyweight..
     
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  4. Drexl

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  5. Jinx

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    Holyfield would've beaten Lewis handily had they fought anytime before '97...and Lewis still struggled with a '99 version of Holyfield...what i'm saying is Holyfield is the greater heavy...
     
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  6. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    No, what you're saying is

    "Waaaaa :neutral: Waaaaa :neutral: Lennox you bully! Leave that beautiful old man alone! Waaaaa :neutral:"
     
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  7. Bigcat

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    I am a big fan of Holyfield, but if Holyfield fought a 1996 Lewis any time in his career , he would have been in major trouble.. Not by a mile , but Lewis on every time Victorious.. Holy was all at sea against Cooper (cruiserweight)
    and allowed men like Bean and Ruiz to stretch him to his limits.. LL was a bit more a challenge than them both..

    Always a good competetive fight..

    Never a Holyfield win ...........
    A big heart against the big man may have put him in big trouble.
     
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  8. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Exactly!!!:yep:good
     
    Zakman, Jun 20, 2007
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  9. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    Congrats Zakman!
    Someone agrees with you! :happy :klitfanb:


    GO TEAM!!

    :grouphug
     
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  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    i can think of a few other expert ringside analysts who were more overrated.
     
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  11. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

    You're welcome to join if you like!!:lol:

    We could use a man of your dedication and persistence! :good
     
    Zakman, Jun 20, 2007
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  12. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    ha
    You have all the dedication and persistence you need.

    It's facts and objectivity you lack, and unfortunately they are the things preventing me from joining your team.

    Sorry old chum.
     
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  13. Fighting Weight

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    :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
     
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  14. The Italarican

    The Italarican Pretty Good Poster Full Member

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    I think it's safe to assume he meant a past-his-prime draw and disputable loss, although I think both were definite Lewis wins.
     
    The Italarican, Jun 20, 2007
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  15. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    I've got the facts, too! It's a question, as I've said, of the emphasis one gives to particular facts over others.

    No one will ever convince me that getting started by not one, but two, second-rate HWs is the worst possible "black mark" an ATG fighter can have on their record.

    There is no "objectivity" in boxing analysis - hell, in sports analysis generally. Virtually all of it is subjective. It's a question of what interpretation becomes the dominant one. Clearly, I favor mine!:yep
     
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