Lennox Lewis is overrated

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  1. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Classic Lewis overrating, riddled with all the usual excuses. Bottom line, when you hit Lewis on the button, fight was OVER. And you didn't have to be a great HW to turn the trick, either. :lol:
     
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  2. vonBanditos

    vonBanditos MĪƒderator Full Member

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    I think you enjoy these debates because you must know exactly how unfair you are. It can be inferred from what you just wrote that it must be pretty damn hard to hit him on button if it only happened twice.
     
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  3. AJAX

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    well, I guess he never lost to a great heavyweight then, and he must have also only been hit twice his whole career.
     
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  4. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Actually, I give Lewis and Emanuel Steward a GREAT deal of credit for making the adjustment, post-McCall, to tighten up his defense and prevent those shaky whiskers from getting cracked hard. It is truly amazing, frankly, that he wasn't taken out more times.

    That said, it doesn't excuse these crushing losses, at all. There is no worse blemish on a fighter's record than getting KTFO by inferior opposition. Particularly when you are at the top of your game. Lewis is the only top level guy taken out early by guys like this when he held the title, the only one. That's utterly inexcusable for an ATG, and has to be factored against him. So too does not facing Holyfield and Tyson at their bests, or Bowe at all.

    See, the Lewis booster squad likes to ignore, excuse, or minimize all of this. That is the ESSENCE of overrating a fighter, and it goes on to a such a glaring degree with this guy, SOMEBODY has to point it out!
     
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  5. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Realistically, how do you see Lewis/Bowe going peak to peak.

    I see Lewis giving him a beating before Bowe closes the distance and catches up to him, then landing a combination and KOing him mid rounds... but Bowe would be battered silly.
     
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  6. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    That might happen, although I could also see Bowe getting an early knockout. A peak Riddick Bowe is VERY underrated, because he really was only able to sustain that peak for a short time. But no one regrets that Bowe-Lewis never happened in '93 more than me, because I have little doubt Bowe would've won.
     
    Zakman, Jun 22, 2007
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  7. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I'd pick Bowe everytime also, but I have noted that range and jab gives him immense issue's and Lewis was quick, relatively powerful and precise, so I could see him dishing out punishment as defence was just Bowe's head.

    Bowe is indeed underrated and as you say, you'd have to have lived through the era or specifically studied it to a scientific point to understand how it was at the time. Bowe was a physical phenom, he'd close the distance and get Lennox in their fight if it happened...

    Lewis fans would never agree.
     
    Amsterdam, Jun 22, 2007
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  8. IronBull

    IronBull Active Member Full Member

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    No because Lewis got 0 ****ing credit for who he beat.. :(

    Lennox's style was a little boring.

    No tan all time great but a solid champion...
     
    IronBull, Jun 22, 2007
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  9. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    What credit didn't he get? He beat a lot of good fighters with skill, that was impressive, his resume is very good save for two horrible black marks in getting KOed early by 2nd rate fighters in his prime.
     
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  10. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    I never knew that Lewis got hit only twice in his entire career.
    His defence makes Willie Pep look like Chuck Wepner.


    By the way, your boy Holyfield landed a few flush combinations on Lewis, particularly in round 3, 4 & 6 of their first fight, and the fight was OVER.

    Right?









    Right?
     
    ChrisPontius, Jun 22, 2007
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  11. getup

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    Radar really is dead isnt he...,:?
     
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  12. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    These debates aren't quite the same without him....why we'd probably have double the pages, by now!!:lol:
     
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  13. Bigcat

    Bigcat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bowe would have given Lewis a great argument in 1994, but after the rejuvinated LL returned and beat Morrison, he was too hot for the past his optimum Bowe to handle..

    A fight i would have paid to see none the less..

    Bowe was a powerhouse..

    Lewis learned how to beat the Riddick Bowes of the world at the time he started to eat himself out of contention..

    Belt in Bin.. (Mistake)
    Diet ignorance (Mistake)

    Golota and Holyfield broke Bowes spirit...........
     
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  14. See Me Flow

    See Me Flow The Pharaoh of Boxing Full Member

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    I absolutely agree with this.
     
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  15. oblate

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    didn't bowe refuse to fight him then lennox finished golota in 1 who true got a loss against bowe but beat the **** out of him.
     
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