Lennox Lewis is overrated

Because these current guys are not that good.

Briggs was also KTFO by journeyman Marion Wilson because he become so exhausted due to his complete lack of stamina.

Lennox was a great fighter, just not a top 10 ATG on my list, which is the basis for the Lewis discussion when a majority have him a top 10, sometimes even a TOP 5 and in SEVERE cases, a TOP 3!

 

He should be in the top 15 nobody is saying that he is top five or even top ten, thats for sure, but the hate here against Lewis isnt becuase you all actually think he is over rated its because he beat Vitali and retired.

 

From what I've gathered from you (over and over and over ), you could conceivably see someone making a case for Lewis over Tyson (even though you'd disagree) but cannot accept Lewis over Holyfield. Where for you, then, after looking at your list is an acceptable range to put Lewis in, even if you disagree? Obviously you can't comprehand putting Lewis at #7 or better, but #11 would seem to be more tolerable for you. How about 10? 9? 8?

 

Tyson should not be in the top 15 IMHO

 

I have nothing involving the Klit's with Lewis.

He's overrated because a majority feel he's a damn top 10 ATG, sometimes a top 5, which is absurd. Lewis was a great fighter of immense skill and one of the best HW defences ever, he deserves credit for a fantastic resume, but his short comings keep him out of mention with guys like Foreman, Louis, Holmes and Ali, simple at that.

I don't hate Lewis at all, he was a great.

 

I admittedtly don't know enough about the older heavyweights to make a great assessment, but Tyson is one of the hardest heavyweights for me to gauge. At his peak, he was an unbelievable force, but his resume leaves a bit to be desired, and his Rooney and beyond collapse has to hurt him a bit. When I try to rank the all time heavyweights, I haven't been able to put him Top 10.

 

its hard to especially when you consider that both Holyfield and Lewis are three time HW Champions and have fought all the best while Tyson fell short of fighting all the best, it was a great management job but a waste of opportunity and good talent.

 

My first crack at a heavyweight Top 10 last year looked like this:

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Rocky Marciano
4. George Foreman
5. Larry Holmes
6. Jack Johnson
7. Jack Dempsey
8. Joe Frazier
9. Lennox Lewis
10. Sonny Liston

I'm not sold on it but haven't decided how I'm tweaking it yet.

 

Here's some facts for you Zakman:

1. Lewis beat Tyson, Bowe (in the amateurs) and Holyfield
2. Tyson never beat Lewis
3. Bowe never beat Lewis
4. Holyfield never beat Lewis in 2 attempts
5. Bowe threw the WBC belt into a trashcan when he was supposed to defend it against Lewis in 1992
6. Tyson paid $4 million "step aside" money to Lewis in 1996
7. Lewis beat every man he faced, Tyson, Bowe and Holyfield never did
8. Lewis avenged every loss he had, Tyson, Bowe and Holyfield never did

No intrepretation or assumption on my part, just FACTS that you cannot dispute.

 

So facing him for the Olympic Gold Medal meant nothing then, huh?

 

Although this is your mantra I'll give you this. Indeed he was.

Again true. However the facts I stated in my earlier posts mainly explains why this was. If Tyson, Bowe and Holyfield all avoided Lewis in the early to late 1990's whose fault is this?

 

I don't NEED to know what was in Bowe's mind. The point is, HE declined to face LEWIS. You have things ass-backwards when you talk of Lewis not facing Bowe. (If Mike Tyson wanted to take me in a street fight and I (wisely) declined, there wouldn't be talk of TYSON not having faced ME !)

Lewis is not the one who threw his belt in the garbage rather than face Bowe.

And besides, Lewis would have beaten the guy anyway. They're different levels of fighter.

Lewis could not have faced a prime Tyson (1986-1990) because they were not at parallel stages in their careers. Lewis was just starting out. He had an amateur career and competed in the Olympics. His prime was 1999-2003. A prime LEWIS vs prime Tyson would have been a great fight with Lewis IMO getting the UD.

RE: Holy, there was never a day (or night ) in his pro career he could have beaten prime Lewis.