Lennox Lewis is overrated

Lewis beat Holy.

Deal with it. No excuses. :deal

 

38 Pages Out Of merely A Contentious But Unsupported And Unsubstantiated Statement Zak?:nut
Thats Good Going Mate:good .some People:-(

 

Creating a large thread takes no special skill or insight.

You just make a biased statement, back it up with obvious and transparent spin, then refuse to back down in the face of logical argument.

It's also known as being an irritating ****wit or, in internet terms, a troll. It's not big and it's not clever.

After a certain point in the thread (which has been passed in this one), the original premise has been so completely blown out of the water that people enjoy joining in just to slap the original poster some more while he's down. That's also not big or clever.... but it's fun. :yep

This is now the internet equivalent of a stress ball or punching bag. It's just there to help blow off a bit of steam. :thumbsup

 

lennox UD evans fields.

 

Blueprint to beat Evander Holyfield:

* If you are small, with a glass chin, you can outbox him and grab a close decision over 12 rounds.

* Or, if you are big and skilled, you can go to war with him and take your lumps, but eventually end up just beating the **** out of him until he's half-dead, when the ref will stop it if 12 rounds haven't gone by yet.

* Or, you can play it safe and win 9 clear rounds, secure in the knowledge that the judges will not **** you if you beat him THAT soundly.

* Or, if you are a glorified clubfighter with heart and guts but no talent or real physical attributes, you can jab him and then smother him, and come out on top in a trilogy.


Blueprint to beat Lennox Lewis:

* If you are a big puncher, then maybe you have a chance of landing a monster punch early in the fight that sparks him. If you land that shot, then don't sign for the rematch.



When you look at it like that, surely it's gotta say something.

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I know,thats my point:thumbsup

 

Think I'll help myself to another slice of +1 post pie. Mmm!

 

Ok, just a small slice for me to go with my cuppa.

Mmmm.... what is that? Cinnamon?

 

The Holyfield who faced Lewis was as diminished as the Tyson who faced Holyfield. So if your not going to count Lewis's wins over Holy than you can't count Holy's wins over Tyson. What's Holy's legacy than, getting crushed by Bowe and losing to a glass jaw blown-up Moorer.

 

Let it go. Zakman has a serious man love for Evander and can't see the simple facts even though he is all alone on an island.

 

Lewis is overrated.

He should have lost 2 of 3 to Bowe, and win the one by razor thin decision when Bowe was overweight and when Bowe was having a good round and then an idiot crashed down and delayed the fight, and then Bowe's wife got carried from the arena on a stretcher.

Also, Lummox should have needed two tries to beat a chinny former light-heavyweight. After the chinny former LHW beats Lummox, he should lose his title to a senior citizen, making Lummox's earlier win over the senior citizen look better.

All of Lummox's losses will be excused by HGH-itis and shoulder injuries.

 

Who's the bird in your avatar?

 

Serena Williams.... (I think)


I agree about the whole Holy/Bowe thing.

Holy is great because he snuck 1 out of 3 against Bowe.
Bowe is great because, well, he beat Holy 2 out of 3.

Holy loses to Moorer.
Foreman beats Moorer. Now makes Holy's 3 year earlier defence against Foreman legit, and apparently now makes Foreman the most dangerous contender in '91 when Holy fought him. (Argued this point on another thread)
Holy beats Moorer in rematch.

Holy beats Tyson. Tyson was apparently still good at this point in time despite only fighting 8 rounds after being in prison for years, and beating a petrified Bruno, escaping the 'cocoon of horror' and a couple of other gimmes. Tyson apparently still good because Holyfield beat him.

Holy can't beat Lewis despite the biggest gift judging ever in the first fight. These fights don't count despite Holy being recognised #1 fighter and I think Ring belt holder + 2 ABC belts at the time because Holy wasn't at his best. (but remember, Holy's fights with Tyson DO count because he was 'still dangerous' - just like Foreman apparently)

Holy later splits an awful trilogy with Ruiz (and gets dropped by Big Johnny), loses to Byrd, gets stopped by Toney a former middleweight and is I believe still fighting.

None of these fights count because they are past some magical cut off date where careers are defined.

HOWEVER - Lewis's WIN over Vitlay - not long after given the Ring belt and recognised as the best heavy (just after Wlads' bambi on ice v Sanders remember) - is actually a NEGATIVE because he didn't rematch a guy he stopped in 6 in his last ever fight.

Apparently inflicting a bazillion cuts on a guy and ripping half his face off doesn't count as a legit win if you're behind a swing round on the cards and sit down hard on your stool after only half the fight.

Being stopped twice (TKO'd one time while on your feet too - that is never ever ever mentioned in 'shaky chin' arguments - unlike the counter argument that Wlads chin must be good because he's got up about 13 times.......) is apparently much worse than being stopped a few times and outboxed a few as well.



Don't get me wrong. Holy was brilliant. But it just shows how easy it is to be ridiculously harsh on one guy, and extremely lenient on another when judging their careers.