Let it go....he owned Holyfield TWICE and no matter how many threads you create or anti-Lewis remarks you make, this will never change. Lewis owned Holyfield TWICE and this will never change. Period. End of story. Holyfield was the second best fighter of his era.
Ruiz should have gottem the nod in the first fight. Ruiz won the second. The third was a draw, such a dreadful fight that it was one where truly there were no winners. In reality, Ruiz should have been 2-0-1 against Holyfield.
IMO he was good defensively when he wanted to be and when he could control the fight with his jab. When he couldn't he took punches. I mean he took some hefty shots from Bruno, Tua, Klitschko, Mercer, Briggs, Holyfield and even Tyson and didn't look like going down. All those guys can punch (yes even Holyfield). If his chin was glass he would have been floored/KO'd in those fights.
CLASSIC example of how overrated Lewis is by some boxing fans today - and how underrated Holyfield is! I KNEW I'd get a few of these.:nut Delusional is putting it mildly!:yep
I absolutley agree with this. Lewis was not a great offensive infighter, he had one great weapon and that was it. But defensively he was straight out of top drawer. Leaning, smothering,turning, pushing, all the stuff that never gets a fighter onto YouTube, he had in spades, best of the modern era. On the outside,for a big man, he was wonderfullly competent defensively, i'd rate him as the best superheavy ever. People complain about him being reticint, to timid, this is what they mean! Haters can't have it both ways, he wasn't aggressive enough AND he wasn't good defensively, how could he win the title? I've never seen him have one of his counters countered either. In that respect he is the equal of Ali.
He has the weakest chin of the fighters who are on my top ten heavyweight list. But to call his chin "glass" is pushing it a bit. This is true of almost any fighter, especially at HW. Hollyfield has a better chin than Lewis but Lewis has a better chin than most. I've SEEN him eat absolutley massive shots from some of the biggest hitting heavyweights of all time without taking a knee. So have you.
Hi Zak. Where do you have these two fighters on your Heavyweight list. I have Lewis at #5 and Hollyfield at #8
I got Tyson at 11 too. Tell you what, you are the most informed guy I know who has Lewis outside his top ten.
Exactly, he definitely was a very impressive defencive fighter and an ATG at that. I have him at #12 personally, as you already know that I downplay some of the oldest of older era fighters abilities compared to a post-60's, I do add in "era/era" comparisons and especially accomplishments for their set time period, so the guys that I'd say get starched if just matched straight up still take a high position with me for what they did for their time. Dempsey ranks over Lewis in this regard, and if we are talking an "era/era" comparison of the matchup between Dempsey and Lewis, then Dempsey blasts Lewis in a round or two. So it's not hard to rank Lewis out of the top 10 in reality, he's quite overrated in my opinion, even being a fantastic fighter who I did enjoy. I am also not a "Lewis hater", I enjoyed most of his fights and he provided some thrills, I just do not like the overrating of Lennox Lewis and the fanboys of Lennox are especially ridiculous, some even listing him as "number 3" and H2H "number 1", give me a break!
While you can say Holyfield wouldn't have lost to Rahman or McCall, Lewis never would've lost to a 12 round decision to a glass jawed light heavyweight like Holyfield did, and Lewis was never totally dominated over 12 rounds like Holyfield was in Bowe I Bowe never beat anyone of note before or after Holyfield, I don't see why people think he was "great". He was only a great fighter on one night, the first Holyfield fight. He had no defense and his outside game was adequate at best. Bowe was the beneficiary of matching up perfectly against Holyfield. Bowe would've been outboxed badly by Larry Holmes and would've been KTFO by Lewis and Tyson