But Tyson was outboxed and dominated round by round and eventually KTFO by a gatekeeper/fringe contender during his prime, that would never happen to Lewis Holyfield was outboxed by glass jawed Michael Moorer, Moorer wouldn't have lasted 6 rounds against Lewis. And Holyfield was dominated overall in his trilogy with Bowe, and Bowe never did anything noteworthy outside of beating Holyfield. The myth that Bowe was great only exists because he matched up very favorably against Holyfield
Thanks!! I suppose I should be "informed" after following the sport for 30 years, reading boxing mags religiously, etc. I followed the careers of Holyfield, Tyson and Lewis from their beginnings, so I have to contextual understandings that are probably only available to those who lived through the era and followed the sport. At the TIME, Lewis was regarded, correctly, as the lesser of these fighters, no doubt. It is only since he has retired that I have seen this explosion in fans grossly overrating him as they do now, and the underrating of Holyfield and to a lesser degree Tyson that seems to go with it. I think that this stems from Lewis being the last great champ before the present mediocre era - which only makes him look greater in retrospect. Also, modern fans seeing today's used-up versions of Holyfield and Tyson has also caused them to be underrated. In their primes, both of these guys beat Lewis, and rather easily. Tyson, particularly, would have annihilated him.
Tyson was not KTFO, he was brutally beaten down and stopped against Buster, Lewis was straight KTFO by Rahman and KTFO by McCall, they were not BEATDOWNS, they were simple singular shots that put him out. Not even comparable.
I disagree with you entirely. Although Hollyfield would ALWAYS cause Lewis problems, I feel the physical disadvantages were to great. Where Tyson is concerned I feel Lewis would not only have beaten him, but beaten him pretty easily. Peak for peak. That's boxing I guess.
So you're saying it's better to be outboxed and dominated and then knocked out by a mediocre fringe contender type? How so? If Lewis was "KTFO" by McCall then Tyson was KTFO by Douglas. And to me the fluky nature of Lewis's losses is less suspect than Tyson's loss to Douglas. Tyson was dominated by a fringe contender, Lewis was never totally outclassed in the ring like Tyson was that night Lewis was never outclassed the way that Holyfield was by Bowe Every boxer has their weaknesses. Lewis's was his chin and at times his complacency/motivation. Holyfield's was a lack of power and size. Tyson's was mental toughness and dedication. So you can say Holyfield and Tyson would never be KO'd by McCall or Rahman which is true, but Lewis would never be outclassed round after round in his prime by a fringe contender and then KO'd like Tyson was, or lose a 12 round decision to a glass jawed former light heavyweight like Holyfield, or be thoroughly dominated by a one dimensional boxer with no defense like Holyfield was against Bowe
Zakman hates Lewis for the simple fact he's not American.If Lewis was American, Zakman would love him. Lewis beat the best, granted he didn't beat tyson in his prime, but take into account that lewis was older. Lewis was very dominant, very athletic, very big puncher and very intelligent. His chin wasn't all that but it wasn't that bad.......did he get KTFO twice yes,but both those two pounches would have knocked out 99.9% of the human population out. People say that if you tapped his chin he would go down? excuse me? Is that how he with stood that war with Mercer and got hit cleanly many times....also when he got battered from pillar to post my Vitali in the 2nd round but still didn't fall down? Lewis' chin wasn't great but to call it completly glass is ludicrous,those punches that he got knocked out with would have knocked anyone out,espescially the Rahman one,Rahman wound that punch all the way back and put his entire body into it. Lewis proved that both the Mccall and Rahman fights were flukes and lucky punches,he proved that he was a better boxer than both of them. He was never outboxed in the ring. Lewis was dominant,strong,big puncher, athletic and a very good technical fighter. He beat everyone who he had to beat, beat everyone he ever faced and beat everyone who was put up against him. You can't ask any less from a fighter and champion.
What time are you referring to? If it was the mid-late 90s, let's not forget that this was a period when Lewis was seriously overlooked and people were still waiting for Tyson to return to his dominant self. Holyfield was the solid favorite over Lewis in their first fight. At that time, many people thought Lewis could not beat even that version of Holyfield, and others were still grossly overrating Tyson. You probably are seeing people overrate Lewis now, but you're also seeing him also getting deserved respect and recognition that he did not have in the 1990s.
My top 15 list is not just on accomplishments alone, but a mix of accomplishments, era/era comparison, H2H comparison(which includes era/era consideration) and overall legacy: 1. Joe Louis 2. Muhammad Ali 3. Larry Holmes 4. George Foreman 5. Jack Dempsey 6. Joe Frazier 7. Rocky Marciano 8. Evander Holyfield 9. Sonny Liston 10. Mike Tyson 11. Jack Johnson 12. Lennox Lewis 13. James J. Jeffries 14. Jersey Joe Walcott 15. Ezzard Charles Now where is the insanity here? This is a good list.
Sonny Liston had one title defence? And got knocked out with one punch by Ali,if its a stain on Lewis' record to be knocked out by 1 punch why not on Liston's?