Lennox Lewis is overrated

Yeah prime for prime I would take Liston over Lewis.

 

So in other words, every man he ever faced was even MORE overrated.

Especially your boy Holyfield, who was ranked above Lennox the first time they fought (Ring #1 and #2 respectively)

He must have been waaaaay overrated.:deal

 

Yeah, REALLY unbiased!


You feel the need to find a negative for these Lewis opponents from elsewhere in their careers, but all Valdes gets is "Ranked veteran".

Talk about selective details!!!!

 

McGrain, just wanted to thank you for being a good, objective poster since you joined. The above is a good example of this. Keep up the good work mate. :good

IMO the worst types of poster are guys like Zakman and Amsterdam, guys who should know better. By both maintaining that Lewis has a glass jaw it kills stone dead any credibility they have for any debates about Lewis. It's impossible to have a sensible conversation with Zakman who basically ignores any counter-points I put to him. For example, he has Holyfield at #7 and for what? 1 win and 1 DQ in favour against a faded Mike Tyson? Holyfield was one of my favourite fighters but he doesn't belong at #7.

 

Lewis never avoided a single fighter throughout his whole career.....

 

So let me get this straight, please.

It's more acceptable to take a dive, and throw away the HW championship (not to mention the supposed substance in the eyes in the first fight) - then to get KO'd trying to actually fight for it.

Is that what people are saying here?

I would say that if those 2 occurences are supposed to be true - but "Sonny was messed up, so that's OK" - then clearly it calls into doubt many of Sonnys other fights - wins or not - as being fixes.

Just want to be clear here. It's better to take an early dive, and throw a HW title fight, than to be KO'd fighting for it.

If that's peoples logic, then I must have moved to bizarro world.

And if the people here believe that - I would hope those guys never, ever rag on a guy for stopping a fight on this stool. Those guys have given their all, and just feel like they have nothing left.

So if a dive doesn't dent your legacy - then surely quitting shouldn't?


and if it's not a dive, then Liston has a shaky chin, yes? Because I doubt that version of Ali could KO Lewis like that.

 

Holyfield fought the most idiotic fight i've ever seen a top heavy fight in Bowe v Holy 1, that win says more about Holys' complete stupidity than it says anything about Bowe's greatness. Plenty of heavies would have beaten Holy that night with the idiotic strategy he had of throwing left hook, after left hook, and barely using his jab or varying his attack.

 

Amsterdam finds it impossible to be unbiased about fighters he dislikes, he's said it himself in the past :yep

 

To a new fan, who hasn't studied up on the older guys, I had to explain where those guys stood at the time. I even qouted good wins for Lewis and only took some negatives because if Champs just went over to Boxrec without knowing anything about those guys, he may not realise that Morrison/Williams are about equal in terms of win, never did I claim Liston's resume was superior....

Modern guys just tend to overrate the fighters they have seen.

I just said that Liston's resume is COMPARABLE and was giving an argument, why do Lennox fans take everything as an attack on him? I am not even a Lennox hater, I was a fan of his when he was active.

 

I'm working on this though, trust me. I seek to be unbiased in my views and I am getting much better.

I've been on target with many things in boxing discussion, but you're right, the things that I am 100% correct on are things that I am more so impartial to, or like the fighters in question, though as I have said, I really have nothing against Lennox... not like I do against Margarito etc.

 

LL is 1 of only 2 HW to beat every man they fought. I don't think anybody could say his opposition was soft either. :good

 

I haven't read any replies, but I would just like to say that Lewis isn't overrated. He's an alltime great and we should be appreciative that we had a great champ like that in our time. And his alleged china chin would make his career even more impressive.