Tyson's prime ended after the Spinks fight, basically. That's when he left his old management team. Just look at the Bruno fight for evidence. And I'm not taking anything away from Douglas, btw. Even a prime Mike with Rooney/Cus probably wouldn't of had an easy time in that fight. And Prime Mike beats Lewis 9/10, IMO. Lennox would not be able to handle him. Too much speed, too much aggression, power and skill. Lewis could barely handle the old, over-the-hills Mike in the first round of their fight. Mike just gassed out, and got beat on for eight rounds. Prime Mike > Lewis, I'd bet my whole bank account on it.
Lewis seems to be the luckiest being (in terms of chance) ever to have existed, judging by this post.
he would beat liston easily i cant believe you think that sonny has somthing on him liston did have the jab and power but that doesnt get you the win liston is to squat to win. lennox ud by jabbing tiying up and throw the right hand when liston moves in but liston was a dangerous man and as a jab comes to jab the smaller man wins and liston had the power and ferocity to win. 5/5 chance for lennox foreman george-lennox would be a great fight but foremans defence but relied on jabbing his way in with his big long power jab and midrange punches using hooks uppercuts crosses jabs all the punches could land bascily...but his defence well he didnt have one. lewis was hard to hit and a great inside technician and outside puncher. but foreman didnt fall down alot and always kept coming had an almighty jaw and the hardest punching heavyiweght champion of all time...but yet again lewis hits about just as hard with the right hand and the stamina and ring smarts to beat him 6/4 for lennox (only becuase the power of lewis vs the chin of foreman would maybe be a stun or a rocking motion. but if george landed a right hand it could and might be all over) frazier...frazier was beaten by guys who pushed him back had a size and reach advantage who would jab him make him dodge and get tagged by a big right hand. no way does frazier win this. think about what beat frazier and lewis is almost the exact tailormade man for him. 9/1 for lennox (im totally sure about this but frazier would still have the left hook and reflexes) ali- would do all types of stuff to lewis ,lewis was quick and athletic but muhhamad was way to quick light and snappy a close but ali wins on the faster rapidity of shots and elusivness.8/2 ali jerry quarry-:think now you say 'jerry quarry' like it's an insult that lennox could be beaten by him...but quarry was a bad bad man when it came to the hitters . when fighting punchers he was a giant killer only 189 pounds and 6'1 tall he could blast men away with his counterpunching skills iron jaw and power. he was quick elusiv and would box and slug in equal measure. vs frazier he brawled as he couldnt get frazier to back up. and did win loads of rounds, vs ali he tried to box becuase thats what he does to the taller fighters that they come to him to hit hard while he moves slips and comeback with the right hand or left hook ,sadly ali was a boxer and made quarry come to him and tore him apart. 7/3 ray mercer gave him trouble but by no mean won the fight. when a jab vs the jab the smaller man usually wins becuase he is trying to go foreward with the jab while the other man tries to move away. this happend with duran vs leonard durans left kept parrying away the jab of ray, but lennos used his savy to win though not looking good in the process.
now hold on there big buddy... what about that time that Lennox was paid money to step aside so Tyson wouldn't have to face him? I recall that being mid to late nineties? hmmm?
Tyson - Ranked #1 contender in the HW division. Most people (probably incuding your punk ass) gave him a 5/7 odds of beating Lewis. Holyfield - WBA and IBF belt holder. He just beat Tyson 2X, and Moorer. The 1996 version was arguably better than the 1992 version. Beaten every man he faced just before he fought Lewis. Bruno - Got KOed, awesome display of Lewis' power. Mccall - Never been KOed/TKOed except against Lewis. McCall only started to show this so-called "mental instability" after 2 rounds of desparation, realising he is going to get schooled badly by Lewis in that fight. Rahman - Many thought (again probably including your punk ass) that Rahman had Lewis' numbers. Lewis showed tremendous heart in showing absolutely no fear to a guy who just KOed him and displaying an awesome one punch KO in a rematch win. Tua - Weighed only 245 lbs, and was really undefeated at the time he faced Lewis (I had him winning over Ibeabuchi). Tua was KOing everybody (including then future champs Maskaev, Rahman, Ruiz, etc). Lewis showed the blueprint on how to beat Tua, many fighters since then followed that masterpiece blueprint. Morrison - Lewis KOed him in 6. Lewis displayed awesome skills in that fight. Akinwande - Undefeated and a great prospect when he fought Lewis. Lewis showed he has no problem fighting a guy taller than him. Golota - Recognized by many as the best HW at that time, following his good showing against Bowe. Lewis disposed him in less than a round. Tucker - Had a record of 44-1 when he fought Lewis. He only lost to TYson prior to that. Ruddock - Ranked by many as the best HW at that time(when TYson went to prison), following his good performance against Tyson. Klitschko - Lewis took everything Vitali could dish, proving his chin was better than most people think. Vitali will go on to reign the HW after the Lewis fight. Mercer - Lewis won fairly. Mercer showed at the top of his game that night. Worth mentioning: Grant - Undefeated good prospect, many thought he was the next big thing. Lewis pulverized him in 2. Botha - Good contender, showed up in tremendous shape against Lewis. Lewis disposed him in 2. Briggs - Lewis disposed him in 5. 10 year later, Briggs will go on and win a HW belt :happy :happy :happy
You are aware that Lewis is older then Mike, right? And if you're going to rewind the Tyson age clock, then you can't just bang him in with an old Lewis, and say, see, Mike's better!!!! That would be just as simplistic as me saying that if a nobody like Bonecrusher can go 12 with Mike, then Lewis would do it in a canter - and actually throw something back. Or if Douglas can beat Mike, then Lewis, blah blah blah. Barely handle??? Was Lewis KD? Was his bell rung? Was he stumbling around? No, he just smothered Tyson, and then cracked him with an uppercut on the way in - just like a guy 6'5 should against a 5'10 guy. How would it go prime v prime?? Don't know. Either man could take it IMO.
Evander "Real Deal" Holyfield Faced Bowe, who Lewis didn't - and beat Tyson when it mattered. OH, and you never saw Holyfield pasted to the canvas by second-raters in the early rounds: This content is protected Best HW Ever??? Hell, he isn't even the best HW of his own ERA!!!!!
Yeah, and he got up and finished the fight, didn't he? Just like he ALWAYS did against palookas like that!!:yep
Faced Bowe whom Lewis didn't face because Bowe ducked him. :yep Faced bowe and lost 2X to him (and only managed to win a MD in one of the fight). :yep :yep Holyfield's resume is great, and I wouldn't have any problem with anybody having him within top 5. But Lewis' resume is clearly better. Holyfield got himself busy fighting old fighters who got the name like Foreman and Holmes. Holyfield fought the bigger names but it was Lewis who fought the more quality opponents like Golota, Ruddock, etc.
Its really interesting to see some views on this, ive always thought Lennox was a great boxer and his record is good, but...something that always bugs me about putting him too near the top of an all time list is how long it took him to mature. As a younger boxer he was vunerable to losing concentration and mad some sloppy mistakes, he got better with age and in this way he is different to most greats who enjoyed their best years in their younger days, not sure where it places him but for me he's not Top 5