Lennox Lewis or Joe Louis

Haven’t looked at their records but it’s entirely possible that one is used as a stepping stone for upcoming fighters and another fights 127 cab drivers.

 

Billups' opponents average record was 15-4

Godoy's opponents average record was 28-10-3.

Godoy fought a lot of good and some great fighters. He fought Joe Louis (2 times), Harold Johnson, Tommy Loughran (3 times), Lovell (4 or 5 times), Mann, Toles, Dorazio, Savold, Etore and lot of other good fighters.

 

Louis is the greater fighter

 

1) Louis.

2) Lewis - but close. Marred by Tyson and Holyfield being past prime.

3) P4P, Louis.

But head to head, I think Lennox beats Joe.

 

Really?? I see it as an annihilation in Lewis's favour, like 3-6 rounds max. The right hand of Lewis would leave him out cold imo..Only my opinion though mate

 

Holyfield likely beats those guys, and im dead serious

 

Lewis
Lewis
Louis
and h2h Lennox in 6
Lewis fought in arguably the best heavyweight era up until that point imo, contenders where bad ass's !

 

I'm happy to keep my own counsel on the skills/résumé debate, since this discussion has been done to death already, but you're better than the above statement.

Relative slobs like Dillian Whyte, Andy Ruiz, Sasha Povetkin and Kubrat Pulev would be right there for Louis, notwithstanding any amount of height or fat weight they might hold over him. No way the prime, championship version of Louis is getting merked by those guys. They might have moments, but he overcomes them all.

 

To clarify;

It might be highly uncharitable to put Sasha in a "slob" category with the other three, but I still think Louis beats him handily in an exciting fight.

I'd be kinder to Ruiz and his fast hands if he wasn't so languid. It's a fine line between being relaxed in the ring and sleepy. He has a decent set of skills and had a great moment against Joshua (I wouldn't call his success that night a fluke, despite Joshua's ability to find an answer in the rematch), but he's too laid-back and one-dimensional to beat Louis at anything like his best.

Off-balance plodders like Whyte and stiff sitting ducks like Pulev get chinned.


Actually, glancing through The Ring's current Top 10, the only one I have certainly beating Louis is Tyson Fury.

 

Lewis, Lewis and Lewis all clearly unless you have your "rose tinted specs for pre 1960s on". Louis was dominant at a poor era.

Lewis has the best HW resume after Ali.

 

I think a prime Povetkin does very well against Louis. In fact of all modern day HWs Povetkin's the one that reminds me of Louis the most, in the manner in which he fights. Phonebooth fighting, crisp rapid fire combinations. It's a throwback style and one that's very entertaining to watch.

My main issue with Louis that makes me hesitant about his chances are the fact that he seemed so easy to hurt. And he was hurt by a lot of fighters that wouldn't be considered great punchers in the HW division today, were they even to fight in it. That indicates both defensive liabilities and chin issues. And against some of the huge punchers that we've had over the past thirty/forty years I can't see him surviving a concerted assault from many of them. He might have had success against some (I can see him beating Pulev for instance) but he wouldn't have come close to reaching his record of title defences were he to nab a title. He just wasn't sturdy enough.

 

Yeah, that's why I cut Sasha some slack in my follow-up post. That'd be a really exciting fight.

It's a fair observation. I think complacency factored in somewheres, though.

 

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I wish there were a guy like The Duke around now (seeing Dillian Whyte wasted by a superior left hook to his own would be fun). Less encumbered by abject foolishness in his private life outside the ring, of course.

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