Lennox Lewis Should've Been DQ'ed For This

Aw jeez - and here comes this big snarling tiger IB pissing up every tree in the jungle.

Well least I owe you is a serious reply to your OP.

Yeah, probably the ref could've at least hit Lennox with an "Oi mate! Let's go easy then, not read & write on the cobbler's awls!" (despite Harry Davis being a fellow Canadian, not a fellow Brit)

Quite an obvious rules infraction.

Man, bad enough haters have McCall and Rahman to rip on him for - can you imagine if his first loss had come to some Pennsylvanian palooka in Kitchener?

 

Absolutely a DQ. That wad egregious. It's a sport.

 

Just wasn`t one of his big fights, they would have just had a rematch and Lewis would have sparked him.

 

Exactly. Lewis should have been deducted 2 points for the intentional illegal shot(s).

 

Lewis and AJ both fake nice guys, marketed and sold. You can see they had similar PED body transformations too.
But their fans have selective ethics.

To be fair this behaviour was bad, but Lewis never sunk so low as to lean on another man with his head and elbows like Fury.

 

Shoulda been a DQ for sure. Unprofessional

 

Lewis was famous for holding behind the opponents head and throwing the uppercut.

 

Point deduction would have been fair.

DQ? No, the opponent was not KO, or badly hurt where he can't continue.

 

Joe Parker showed a similar ruthless/bully streak against Dimitrenko and Flores as I recall, hitting Dimitrenko while he was down and landing a few low blows on Flores before the stoppage. This behaviour is largely absent though when Parker fights guys that he isn't hugely favoured to beat. But Parker wasn't dumb or impulsive enough to hit an opponent with an unprovoked, DQ-worthy three punch combination while they were down on one knee.

 

I agree that it's not the fighters decision, it's the referee's decision to either allow the fight to continue or to disqualify Lewis. Usually for a first infringement a referee gives a warning or deducts a point if it's bad, can't think of any cases where a fighter has been immediately disqualified for a first infringement of the rules, we've even had a few fighters bite opponents and not be immediately disqualified. Is there even anything in the rules of boxing that states a specific foul results in an immediate disqualification?

Me being a Lewis fan has nothing to do with my view on this matter. Had the referee decided to immediately disqualify him, I would of been fine with that, it was a bad foul and warranted a disqualification, but in the end it's the referee's prerogative in the end and the rules are such that there was nothing inherently wrong with the decision he made. My view is that as it didn't effect the result in any way and it allows the fight to play out to it's natural conclusion then the right decision was made. So many great fights would get stopped prematurely if fighters were disqualified for a first offence and I'd find that frustrating as a fan. Imagine Pacquaio/Marquez 1 being stopped at the end of rd 1 because Pac hit JMM when he was down. Fans would be in an uproar, fighter goes down 3 times, but wins the fight on a technicality, plus we'd have been robbed of one of the best fights of that era because it wasn't allowed to be played out.

 

Yeah but there is infringement and infringements. And this was a straight up DQ. Roy Jones for example was a straight up DQ-ed, for doing a lot less, and was a single hard shot, as the first one was patty one.
But that's not the question. Just like in any other sport, and i will give a Football for example, a foul can be just a warning from the ref, could be yellow or could be straight Red. Also after the fight the punishment can be 1 match off, 3 matches off, or could be 5-10 matches off if it was intentional and dirty.

You are a decent poster, but here your agenda/bias speak. This is a straight up DQ, and nothing less.
Also such obvious and blatant decision should 100% be overruled after the fight.

And btw not going to waste time searching, but use the search bar, plenty of fighters get DQ for illegal moves. Aka trolls, hitting after the bell or so.

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Good example of what i'm talking.
Another one:

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And plenty of other examples, not just in Boxing but in any other given sport.
As far as the rules:
A disqualification (abbreviated DQ) is a term used when a bout is stopped short of knockout or judges' decision because, intentionally, one or both contestants have repeatedly or flagrantly(key word here) fouled an opponent or violated other rules. The disqualified boxer automatically loses the bout to the opponent. If both are disqualified, (termed a double disqualification) the result is usually declared a no contest regardless of round.

 

Lewis wasn`t built anything like AJ, Tyson and Holyfield had less body fat and more definition than Lewis.

 

I'm not saying disqualifications don't happen, that's obvious, But the what I said was a foul doesn't automatically mean a disqualification there's usually a warning for a first infringement and points deductions first. When it does happen without a warning it's when the fighter can't continue so the referee has no choice but to disqualify him as it's decided the outcome of the fight


The first video you posted the fighter stays down which didn't happen in the Lewis fight, so the referee disqualified him. He didn't disqualify the fighter immediately he waited to see if the fighter could continue.

The 2nd video the first fight ethe referee clearly says the fouled fighter couldn't continue to had no choice but to disqualify him. So again the fouled fighters ability to continue effected the referee's decision. So these examples you posted actually support my position, not yours.

The 2nd fight in the 2nd video the commentary clearly states this wasn't the first foul, so again my point stands, a fighter is usually warned for a first infringement unless of course it directly effects the outcome of the fight.

You see this as my bias but it's simply a difference of opinion on the rules of boxing.

As for you example with RJJ, that fight doesn't support your position because he wasn't straight up DQ'ed as you say. Watch the fight, the referee actually starts the count with Griffin on the canvas, he had no intention of disqualifying Roy at the time, it wasn't until after Griffin failed to beat the count and the commissioner Larry Hazard intervened and overruled the referee that the fight was changed to a DQ and rightly so as Griffin was stopped by a foul which wasn't the case with Lewis' opponent as he got up and fought on.

Fact is it does seem that the fighters ability to continue is factored in regularly to whether a foul leads to an automatic disqualification or not, your own examples prove that. Now you may disagree with how the rules are interpreted but that's the reality of the sport and why should Lewis be treated differently.