Lennox Lewis: the Clever Con-Artist

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  1. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    I will answer this once again... and will put aside the fact that you have no clue what you are talking about as far as the Tyson/Lewis/Bowe situation...

    There is a pretty big difference. Lennox Lewis actually got really good offers to fight Tyson and Bowe... and he turned them down. Lewis vacated his title to avoid fighting Chris Byrd who was BEGGING for a fight. Lewis NEVER offered Byrd a fight. Byrd never turned down a fight against Lewis.

    I already said that Lewis didn't duck Sanders. I said he could have fought Sanders, and Sanders openly petitioned for a fight against Lewis. Lennox himself told Corrie as they became friends that he avoided a possible matchup with Sanders. Lennox even said this while on the mic during the press tour for Sanders vs Vitali when he got up and spoke. He mentioned how dangerous of a fight he felt Sanders would have been.


    Do you see the simple difference now? Lennox was offered fights that he turned down. Lennox never gave these fighters a chance, or an offer.
     
  2. THEBODYSHOT

    THEBODYSHOT Active Member Full Member

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    Just a sad post here. Your a ****ing loser. He fought the best Tua has ever been . Lewis got rock with some hard tua bombs. I personally think u know **** about boxing period. Lewis could get in the ring with any HW past or present and beat them or give them a run for there money. A well train Lewis = unbeatable
     
  3. lufcrazy

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    turning down byrd to fight tyson and vitali. what a chicken :patsch
     
  4. mrbassie

    mrbassie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    TBH that's something you should have realised before you even registered. Guys like Windowdresser only dislike Lewis because he was better than the Klitschko's and they can't stand it. Klitschko fans, not boxing fans.
     
  5. Jack

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    As I said, the fight was postponed before Bowe went with Golota.

    The fact is, you said a Lewis/Bowe fight was never on the cards at the time. I proved you wrong, yet you still won't admit it.

    I'm on my phone right now, so I can't reply properly. Given your refusal to admit you're wrong, I don't think I need to expand on that basic point though. Lewis and Bowe was discussed in January, signed for April and postponed. When it was, Bowe went with Golota and Lewis' fight with Tyson went out of the window. Those are just the facts.
     
  6. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    First of all... he dropped the IBF title AFTER he fought Tyson... and he didn't fight Vitali for over a year. Let's also not forget that he wasn't trying to fight Vitali.... he was scheduled to fight Kirk Johnson in such a pointless fight that the WBC refused to sanction it. So... No, there isn't any excuse. You, like so many others in this thread don't have your facts straight. Lewis vacated his belt to avoid a fight with Byrd... didn't fight ANYONE for a year... and then tried to fight Kirk Johnson. Even after Lewis' fight with Vitali... as Lewis sat on his title for 8 more months without fighting anyone, Byrd was calling him out all over the place. Byrd even showed up at the post fight press conference, made fun of Lewis, and tried to get him to fight.


    You guys really need to look up your facts before you post.
     
  7. pugilist64

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    He didn`t fight his mandatory John "The Destroyer" Ruiz. I heard Butterbean called him out and yet he never gave him a shot either.
     
  8. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Your ignorance is just too much for me. I am seriously not going to waste my time with you anymore. I proved you wrong over and over again... you have no idea what you are talking about. You are acting like Lewis' failed possible fight with Bowe months earlier is the reason why Lewis had to turn down 13.5 mil to fight Tyson after the fact. You have no sense of logic... debating with you is pointless.

    For ****'s sake man, Tyson didn't even win the WBC title until March of 1996! It wasn't until after that Lewis was his mandatory challenger for the WBC title which he just won... which is when Lewis turned down the offer to fight Tyson and then took step aside money instead! This was months after the possible fight between Bowe and Lewis. Bowe/Lewis fell through BEFORE Tyson even won the WBC title! What is wrong with your brain that you can't understand something so simple?

    Your lying ass was trying to say that Tyson and Lewis agreed that Tyson would fight Seldon and Lewis would fight Bowe.:rofl Why do you insist on lying man? What is wrong with you?
     
  9. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wasnt Lewis supposed to fight the min tournamnet winners of the 2 fights between

    Byrd Holy

    Jones Ruiz

    or something like that
     
  10. lufcrazy

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    My thoughts on your posts are that you try hiding behind insults and dates. It has been proven that a lewis - bowe fight was negotiated and signed, but because you could not find that on boxrec you don't believe it.

    If lewis had of fought and beaten byrd it wouldn't make his top 5 victory list. Byrd had a good run and some decent victories but he won't go down in history.

    If lewis was so frightened of byrd he wouldn't have fought the guy who kicked his ass before quitting like a *****. His last 3 opponents speak for themselves. Closure, redemption and passing the torch. If he was more active then yes byrd could have been included but he wasn't and I wouldn't replace any of them victories with one over byrd.
     
  11. DDDUUDDDEE

    DDDUUDDDEE Undisputed Ambien (taker) Full Member

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    Why are you guys even arguing with him anymore?

    It's pointless... like arguing with a brick.

    A brick that takes like ten paragraphs to make one point.
     
  12. Jack

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    Look at the start of my previous post: "As I said, the fight was postponed"

    That's all I need to say, honestly. You're going off on a rant and sticking to the same stance you had two posts ago, and I cleared it up in my last one. The April date was the first date, but was later postponed, as I have said twice now. Please don't say the same thing again because I really can't be bothered repeating it a third time.

    I have backed up everything I said with facts. At first, you made it seem like Lewis happily stepped aside from a Tyson bout, yet made no reference to the promise that there would be a rematch, as I have proven. I then told you about the plan for Tyson/Seldon and Lewis/Bowe, which you denied and said I was stupid for, because Lewis and Bowe weren't even negotiating at the time. I've given you two stories both backing it up and yet you still refuse to back down.

    I think it's clear for anyone who has read our posts who is telling the truth and who is sticking to an their stance despite being proven wrong time and time again. Looking at other posts in this thread, it's clear who the support is with.

    If you want to stick with your anti-Lewis agenda, that's fine. However, when you post absolute lies and misinformation, I will prove you wrong. If you want, you can insult my intelligence again or whatever, but, like I said, I think it's crystal clear I've exposed the bull**** you've come out with.
     
  13. ron u.k.

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    Your eloquance is impressive.
     
  14. lufcrazy

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    I think lewis staying as am amateur is one of his good points tbh, it showed great determination to capture gold.
     
  15. Jack

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    Yeah, I agree. I certainly don't think you can hold it against him because Tyson was around then, anyway. Most guys decide they're going to turn pro about 2 or 3 years before the Olympics because it takes so much preparation. He wouldn't have been too aware of Tyson and couldn't have predicted his fast rise.

    Aside from that, Lewis would have been destroyed because he was so green. Just like Bowe would have been or any of the other elites from the mid to late 90's.