Lennox Lewis think Haye can beat the "easier" Wlad but Vitali is much tougher

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  1. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/8361115.stm

    "Of the two, I would say Wladimir is the easier,"

    "If he can improve on that then he can really get in and do the same thing he did against Valuev which is hit without being hit. Like I said I see him beating one, but if he fights Vitali it will be very difficult for him."
     
  2. noonan

    noonan Guest

    Thing is it will be 8 years since Lewis faced Vit so obviously a different fighter now!!

    I think Wlad will be a more difficult tsk, granted he is chinny but he is so efficient with his jab!!
     
  3. Steve Fox

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    Reflects my opinion pretty much, but I don't think Wlad would fancy fighting Haye anyway.
     
  4. cjgloves

    cjgloves Active Member Full Member

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    Yes I agree, he'll let VK figth him instead. Haye's so deperate to fight one of them I think he would jump at the chance. He should hold out for WK. Hayes greatest strength is Wlads weakness so it would be a good style match up to. Seeing as both are prob the two best movers in the ring at heavyweight, compared to todays overweight contenders. Both very fast and very strong. WK is a brilliant boxer and technician compared to Hayes akward brawling/boxer style.

    I think Haye would hold of just like he did against NV, and try every now and to throw combos. WK at first I can see him fight like he did against Sultan Ibragimov but once he sees Haye isn't going to come forward in the same manner he will put the pressure on Haye.

    I'm guessing Haye too KO WK. Most likely lose on points if it goes the distance. However I do think Haye would beat VK on points.
     
  5. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Haye can beat both. Vlad is the trickier, purely because he isn't a lumbering oaf and does have good boxing skills. He also has a chin made of paper mache. Vitali was a very good fighter but his last fight was **** and he looks like a white Bruno with a better chin.
     
  6. TheUnstoppable

    TheUnstoppable Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Without wanting to open up a can of worms, I personally think Haye COULD beat either/both Klitschkos.

    It's a VERY long shot but with Wlad he has a punchers chance, and Vitali his speed, mobility and power may cause havok for Vitali (especially with teh age, injuries, stylistic matchup etc).

    On top of that Haye showed he CAN create and work to gameplans and that he can last a 12 round heavyweight fight. Sure the Valuev fight wasnt a shinign example, but he did a lot of things that night that many people claimed he couldnt.

    If he fought them 3 times, i'd favour Haye to win 1 of the 3. At least.
     
  7. Akxtinguish

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    I still reckon he should take Wlad first because Vitali is considerably tougher and might be able to eat a few hayemakers.

    With Wlad on the other hand, it's just a matter of landing a decent shot. It's true that he's the better boxer, and it won't be easy landing clean shots when he's holding Haye off with the jab, but Haye's movement will allow him to eventually find the target.
     
  8. bigG

    bigG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i reckon haye would ko wlad....he is an excellent boxer, but jabbing off rahmans and the like is no preperation for a fit and focussed haye...vitali is a different prospect..he is a bit robotic, he is a bit predictable..but he has got a chin and a big heart...the good thing about a vitali fight is that he may become frustrted if haye refuses to be drawn into a brawl.....and i do believe that haye has the power to trouble ANY hw...
     
  9. BURNLEYBLUE

    BURNLEYBLUE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Haye can clean up in a very weak division.The Klits are obviously the 2 biggest fights out there and both easily winnable if he fights with the discipline he showed last week(although i do think he could blow Wlad away)Hayes in a fantastic position.He basically has a licence to **** in the street.Goldenboy know a good thing when they see it
     
  10. Diablo

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    If Vitali's last fight was **** then how would you describe Haye's last outing?:huh

    The difference in punch output was probably 900.
     
  11. cjgloves

    cjgloves Active Member Full Member

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    He could eat someones baby or even **** someone untill they love him and get away with it now. I think he's only going to get bigger too, more and more people will find out about him and watch his fights.

    There will be a rise in people going to the boxing gyms too, just like when Nas, Hatton and living in Leicester you can really see the effect khans having, loads and loads of muslims started. Now with Haye too i bet.

    I really think that WK will leave Haye well alone and let his brother take the fight ... And lose.
     
  12. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I bet you..

    Deep down Lennox Lewis knows David Haye can't even beat WK.
     
  13. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I think Vitali is the easier fight.

    He looked good against Arreola - but my grandad is in better shape than he is (nearly 76 btw) and lighter on his feet.

    It's easy to look great against guys that stand there, but Haye will give him angles and stuff, punches that he won't be expecting. It could turn out like Moorer vs Foreman of course.

    He ain't anywhere near the same guy that fought Lewis though, nobody should pretend he is, either.
     
  14. Diablo

    Diablo Active Member Full Member

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    It seems many are getting carried away with hayes recent decision over Valuev..and a very close one lets not forget. The klits are superior in all aspects to Valuev.

    Vitali has never been outboxed and with Haye's stamina and workrate it isnt very likely.

    Haye needs to hit the lottery with a big right hand...and thats far more likely vs Wlad.
     
  15. David the

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    I would take a guess that Wladimir has already been marked as the first Klitschko to fight Haye as it is the easier fight,It was interesting to see Golden Boy productions behind Haye which means to me they and Hayemaker could have a plan to reintroduce topline heavyweight boxing to american PPV because its died a death with the Klitschkos ruling, and Haye is a marketing mans dream,there is also the point that Lewis works for HBO and sees HBOs possible logic of getting a couple more shows rather than the prospect of facing Vitali first, risking a possible Vitali victory and another couple of years
    struggling to sell to the occasional boxing fan two east european charisma free amateur style boxers